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Old 11-06-2008, 11:49 AM
 
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What's really sad, near where I live some woman threw a baby into a dumpster, possible from an abortion or possibly a still born and my kids had to learn about it -- it was discussed on the news. How do you tell a young child that some mothers would toss their baby's body into a dumpster -- a dumpster they've actually passed by?
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:53 AM
 
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No one supports abortion. Period.

There are women in this country, who have had the unfortunate experience of having been raped, and have subsequently gotten pregnant. So, unless you have been the victim of such an atrocity, you have no right (neither should our government) to dictate how any affected person is going to deal with that issue!

I do not need my government to give me my moral codes, my religion does that for me thank you very much!
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:53 AM
 
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And sometimes you have to tell a child about abortion because they hear about it on television and they hear it if they watch presidential debates. It was brought up in the debate and some 7 years olds are bright enough to know that when Obama said he approved of partial birth abortion what exactly that meant. That too is discussed on evening news. You can't assume that the parents are the only source of information.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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At 7 years old kids certainly know where babies come from even if they don't know how they get in there. Some kids even know enough about sex to know how the baby gets started.

My SIL had a miscarriage when my kids were about that age. We certainly had to talk to them about it, not much difference in talking about abortion except one is natural and one is instigated by man. What's the big deal?

Now, I think the other child was presenting an extremist view which you can also discuss with your 7 year old at the same time you can discuss abortion and what it means. I assume, since you were so offended by the extreme view of her classmate that you responded with facts rather than emotion and opinion. I have found that is the best way to counter/avoid extremism and allow the kids to develop their own opinions.
It was definitely a good teaching opportunity, although you hope not to have to do with with tears in your eyes. Parenting is always fluid. Half the time you're teaching them values and beliefs that you have, and the other half trying to help them understand where other people are coming from. And hopefully you ingrain in them a sense of balance where they will make their own decisions wisely.

Personally I would never use the kind of language that I've heard other kids pick up from adults. This was also an opportunity (because of this election) to teach our kids that they might hear other kids say bad things about black people (or any non-whites), and that it is wrong. Oy vey. Parenting.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:54 AM
 
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We can only hope that these children grow up with the ability to discern things for themselves instead of being indoctrinated with their parents' beliefs.
I wonder what Sasha and Malia hear from Michelle?
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Grand Rapids Metro
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I think sometimes "little pitchers have big ears." (Translation: kids sometimes make it their business to listen in on adult conversation.)
I had a 6 year old at school tell me that Obama is a baby killer. His parents seem like such nice people, no matter what their political beliefs, I can't imagine them ranting and raving about Obama in front of their kids. Maybe I'm wrong but I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Magellan, I am sorry that happened.
You might be right BlueWillowPlate. Let's hope so.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:55 AM
 
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At 7 years old kids certainly know where babies come from even if they don't know how they get in there. Some kids even know enough about sex to know how the baby gets started.

My SIL had a miscarriage when my kids were about that age. We certainly had to talk to them about it, not much difference in talking about abortion except one is natural and one is instigated by man. What's the big deal?
There's a massive difference between "Aunt Susan's baby wasn't ready to be born yet, so his spirit went back to heaven" and "Obama kills babies, check out these pictures of what he likes to do."

Children dont need to hear this stuff, and personally I think it's selfish and sadistic to force them to have to know about it. Why not just let them be children! The world is rough enough.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Va Beach
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Obama doesn't support abortion. He supports a woman's right to choose. Although I am not for abortion, I do believe that every individual has a right to make their own choice. God gives us all free will.
To murder? I can understand if it were about the health of the mother from a tragic attack of sorts, but not because "oops, I'm pregnant and I don't know who the father is."
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:59 AM
 
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And sometimes you have to tell a child about abortion because they hear about it on television and they hear it if they watch presidential debates. It was brought up in the debate and some 7 years olds are bright enough to know that when Obama said he approved of partial birth abortion what exactly that meant. That too is discussed on evening news. You can't assume that the parents are the only source of information.

Yup, and when Clinton's trials and tribulations and weird definition of what does and does not constitute having sex appeared on television and into my living room---oh yeah...was I happy about trying to keep my kids from hearing about BJs.
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Old 11-06-2008, 11:59 AM
 
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To murder? I can understand if it were about the health of the mother from a tragic attack of sorts, but not because "oops, I'm pregnant and I don't know who the father is."
Are you asking me if God gives us free will to murder? If so, let me ask you this, does God stop people from murdering?
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