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Old 11-07-2008, 08:19 AM
 
Location: PA
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It's not about volunteering -- everyone is for that, most of us do volunteer. Volunteering, true service does not involve the government forcing it.
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bingo!
It should hardly be referred to as volunteering when your government forces you to do it.

A true volunteer would exert a lot more of positive energy into something that they want to do as opposed to someone who is required to be there.
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, TN
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It should hardly be referred to as volunteering when your government forces you to do it.

A true volunteer would exert a lot more of positive energy into something that they want to do as opposed to someone who is required to be there.
Yeah, I can see your point.

It's strange to me I guess, because I'm a big advocate of volunteering, that more people don't get involved with it.
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:22 AM
 
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I would guess that inner city schools and schools in wealthy, limosine liberal communities will be exempted from this requirement.
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:23 AM
 
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My children wont be wasting their time doing community organizing or serving in obamas communist army

I got dam gaurantee it
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:27 AM
 
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If they got credit for it.. why not? Getting involved in your community can be a good thing, you learn to respect it (more).

Dunno about seniors though...

I agree. And maybe we can require them all serve one year of national service after High School in the Army. We'll give them all year's credit towards college graduation. Getting involved in your community can be a good thing, you learn to respect it (more).
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:28 AM
 
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If it's "required" how can it be "volunteer" work?
It is a required community service. But some children are too unmotivated to do it without pay so their parents end up paying them anyhow to do community service.
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:32 AM
 
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It just amazes me how some of you will take an idea that will help so many of our kids go to college and turn it into some kind of evil ploy to initiate communism.

Many schools already have community service requirements. Obama wants kids to be rewarded for their work by helping them further their education.

What would you naysayers propose instead? Should college only be available to the more fortunate? Should we continue to let the world pass us by academically so that we need to hire scientists and engineers from India or China because we have become too stupid to do the work ourselves?

The choice is to let ourselves be passed by technologically because of fear or find a way to allow as many children as possible the opportunity to compete globally.
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:33 AM
 
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Exactly! The government doesnot have a reputation for doing things in a streamlined, logical way.
My point with my post was that community service hours are already a requisite for graduating high school in both public and private schools where I live.
As far as compensation for college ........ I still think it is a great idea, but like you I am not sure how our current buerocratic cluster f*** of government could possibly manage it without blowing billions of dollars.
But on a huge scale like this everyone seems to be ignoring the management and logistical nightmares this would cause. It's not proper for this to be done on a federal scale.
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:36 AM
 
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What would you naysayers propose instead?
Allow market economics to work. Give every parent a voucher and let them decide where their kid should be educated. Schools which do not perform will fail and schools which are successful will succeed.

Throwing money at the problem in order to prop up failing schools is the last thing that will increase our students' knowledge base.
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:39 AM
 
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My children wont be wasting their time doing community organizing or serving in obamas communist army

I got dam gaurantee it

Here, let me help you out and make that more easy to read!

You are EXACTLY RIGHT
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