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what is so bad about making it a requirement to help others?! especially directed to all you christian wing nuts - you and your children already volunteer and help the needy, right? (you should if you don't!)
now you will get an extra incentive for it besides Jesus's love...
I don't think it's so much the $40 an hour government jobs for college students that is being considered mandated service, it's that discussion of requiring middle and high school students to do mandatory community service without pay.
I'm sorry, but I just can't wade through all this to find out what $40/hr govt. jobs you all are talking about. The work-study jobs on my daughter's college campus (federally funded) paid $7.50/hr two years ago! Can someone enlighten me?
I'm sorry, but I just can't wade through all this to find out what $40/hr govt. jobs you all are talking about. The work-study jobs on my daughter's college campus (federally funded) paid $7.50/hr two years ago! Can someone enlighten me?
I was referring to the new plan Obama has in mind for college students. The government will give them $4000 in exchange for 100 hours community service. That's $40 an hour.
What bugs me about this is that it's so presumptuous, as if many Americans DON'T volunteer and everyone has to be forced into it. From the time my child was small, I had him volunteering at church and helping me to purchase warm clothes, toys, and gifts that we would take to our local homeless shelter. I was a trained hospice volunteer and would sometimes take him with me to visit patients. I taught him that service was its own reward but now Obama wants to force people into it by stipulating the number of hours and then providing monetary gain for it. That's wrong on many levels.
And did you see the list of ALL OF THE "CORPS" he wants to create? Good God, what's THAT going to cost us???
Imagine what's going to cost when all the kids working now quit their low paying jobs because for only 100 "community service hours" they can get $4000 and will no longer have to work.
It destroys the whole concept of what community service means when you put such a high dollar amount on it. Charity is work you do without compensation. Charity is not dont by government mandates.
It's a ONE TIME $4000 credit. BIG DEAL! $4000 isn't much of a help when an in-state college cost of attendance is nearly $20,000 EACH YEAR. My kids work to help pay for their school and that's not a one-time $4000 thing.
And I agree with malamute, you are going to give them in essence $40 an hour for doing the "right thing" and doing community service?
What's sick is that anyone thinks they can mandate morality through legislation
Yes, like those sick social conservatives that have been legislating jesus morality ever since ... forever. I guess now they know how it feels. Not that I agree with this, but its lol to see them getting p*ssed off and finally getting it.
I was referring to the new plan Obama has in mind for college students. The government will give them $4000 in exchange for 100 hours community service. That's $40 an hour.
As a parent who has ONE MORE college tuition payment to make, I would have MADE my kids do that for $4000! It costs $1000/month just to keep one kid in room and board, and that's with a roommate. With kids in college, you take it where you can get it.
Imagine what's going to cost when all the kids working now quit their low paying jobs because for only 100 "community service hours" they can get $4000 and will no longer have to work.
It destroys the whole concept of what community service means when you put such a high dollar amount on it. Charity is work you do without compensation. Charity is not dont by government mandates.
As a parent who has ONE MORE college tuition payment to make, I would have MADE my kids do that for $4000! It costs $1000/month just to keep one kid in room and board, and that's with a roommate. With kids in college, you take it where you can get it.
I have 3 kids in college. They all work already. I can't see them trying to squeeze 2 extra hours a week in for community service. If they weren't working at all, then yes that would help. But when they are working already, and that $4000 is just a one time thing....they can only spread themselves so thin and still get good grades.
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