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Old 03-21-2009, 09:41 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Hmmm, increased volunteers or new paid jobs?
Volunterism=Charity right? Charity usually= Religion or Religious organizations right?
Where's the ACLU and the usual liberals? Why don't we hear the screams of
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE! I mean heck, if it can't be on our money or in the oath of office or pledge?
Could it be because his highness is suggesting this?
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:07 AM
 
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High school students in our area already do community service as part of certain degree programs. It helps them on their college applications or they earn credit for it. Some go on mission trips over the summer to different countries to build or rebuild while others work a few hours a week in town.
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Old 03-21-2009, 10:54 AM
 
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High school students in our area already do community service as part of certain degree programs. It helps them on their college applications or they earn credit for it. Some go on mission trips over the summer to different countries to build or rebuild while others work a few hours a week in town.
Why, does Congress want to "find out" whether it's feasible to force all Americans to serve the government? ? ? ? ?
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Old 03-21-2009, 01:49 PM
 
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Why, does Congress want to "find out" whether it's feasible to force all Americans to serve the government? ? ? ? ?
Yeah, ford forbid you be part of the community.
Might want to check out other countries that require compulsory support of the country. Mandatory Public Service?
Austria, Greece, Singapore, Brazil, Israel, South Korea, Bulgaria, Lebanon, Sweden, China, Malaysia, Switzerland, Croatia, Norway, Taiwan, Eritrea, Poland, Turkey, Finland, Romania, Venezuela, Germany, Russia

COLLEGE BOUND / A weekly guide to higher education From December 2006: Many high schools, public and private, require volunteerism for graduation, and in my practice, I've seen students undertake a variety of assignments ranging from working at homeless shelters to digging irrigation ditches on other continents. With some exceptions, most students volunteer only because they know it is impressive on college admission applications.
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Old 03-21-2009, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Right where I want to be.
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I don't need the government to tell me to be part of my community, or decide how my time is best used, or which organizations are worthy enough to be included some approved list of organizations for which my service will 'count'.

It's no big secret that conservatives donate more time and resources to charity and community service than their liberal counterparts, even when it comes down to blood donation. Perhaps the reason Obama feels this should be mandated is because he hangs out with a bunch of stingy liberals (like Joe Biden) and doesn't realize many of the rest of us are already doing out of compassion what he thinks should be coerced by government. How many times do I have to say it....government is not the answer, people are.
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Old 03-21-2009, 03:27 PM
 
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Default Yeah, ford forbid you be part of the community

We did away with the draft - even though it is constitutionally legal.

In all other matter of service to community, it is up to We The People to decide - not our elected representatives.
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Old 03-21-2009, 04:22 PM
 
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I don't need the government to tell me to be part of my community, or decide how my time is best used, or which organizations are worthy enough to be included some approved list of organizations for which my service will 'count'.

It's no big secret that conservatives donate more time and resources to charity and community service than their liberal counterparts, even when it comes down to blood donation. Perhaps the reason Obama feels this should be mandated is because he hangs out with a bunch of stingy liberals (like Joe Biden) and doesn't realize many of the rest of us are already doing out of compassion what he thinks should be coerced by government. How many times do I have to say it....government is not the answer, people are.
So, you're in high school or college? Interesting.
Got a link where your "no big secret" can be viewed by others?
Yeah, yeah, compassionate conservatives; like the one who just left office and is responsible for the deaths of 90k+ Iraqis; 4.3k military members and another 30k+ seriously wounded.
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Old 03-21-2009, 04:53 PM
 
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So, you're in high school or college? Interesting.
Got a link where your "no big secret" can be viewed by others?
Hasn't anyone ever told you it's not a good idea to assume?

http://www.p2pays.org/ref/46/45939.pdf

ABC News: Who Gives and Who Doesn't?


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Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household
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conservatives are 18 percent more likely to donate blood
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If liberals and moderates gave blood at the same rate as conservatives, the blood supply in the United States would jump by about 45 percent.
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"You find that people who believe it's the government's job to make incomes more equal, are far less likely to give their money away," Brooks says. In fact, people who disagree with the statement, "The government has a basic responsibility to take care of the people who can't take care of themselves," are 27 percent more likely to give to charity.
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People who reject the idea that "government has a responsibility to reduce income inequality" give an average of four times more than people who accept that proposition.
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Old 03-21-2009, 05:57 PM
 
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The way that kids are raised in liberal homes definitely has them headed toward community service........if they have a good lawyer.
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Old 03-21-2009, 07:45 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Yeah, ford forbid you be part of the community.
Might want to check out other countries that require compulsory support of the country. Mandatory Public Service?
Austria, Greece, Singapore, Brazil, Israel, South Korea, Bulgaria, Lebanon, Sweden, China, Malaysia, Switzerland, Croatia, Norway, Taiwan, Eritrea, Poland, Turkey, Finland, Romania, Venezuela, Germany, Russia

COLLEGE BOUND / A weekly guide to higher education From December 2006: Many high schools, public and private, require volunteerism for graduation, and in my practice, I've seen students undertake a variety of assignments ranging from working at homeless shelters to digging irrigation ditches on other continents. With some exceptions, most students volunteer only because they know it is impressive on college admission applications.
Gee, at least one of the countries you listed the compulsory part is military service. Maybe that's a good idea here, it'd give us enough troops to give those that've served multiple tours a needed break. 1 or 2 years and out and then in the reserves until 65.
What do you think Pelosi and Obama would do if that were proposed? I'd guess they'd soil their knickers then foam at the mouth...
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