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Old 11-09-2008, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Maybe we should spend the next 4 years whining about voter fraud that didn't occur.
You mean like the voter fraud that didn't occur in 2004? C'mon, get real...

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Let it go...sure, just like the leftists have done for the last 8 years.
Why are people making comments like this (b/c there are a few of you out there) NOT seeing the full picture? The full picture is that it wasn't just leftists who "didn't let it go" and criticized Bush and the Republican party...it was many members of the Republican party who were also sick of Bush and the their own party. It was Independents...it was the majority of this country! This was evident over the last four years, and was made perfectly clear on November 4th.

So how can anyone sit there and make snide comments that insinuate that it was the leftists who just "couldn't let go". This makes absolutely no sense, and is blinding yourself to the big picture.

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Old 11-09-2008, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
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You Tell Me How I Can Possibly Support Obama
Maybe you should tell me why I should give a damn whether you support him or not. The election is over, and Obama is president. He will continue to be president whether you support him or not. And frankly, if you don't want to support him--who cares? What you think doesn't change things one little bit. Sorry to hit you with a harsh truth, but there it is.
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Old 11-09-2008, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Actually Obama stole the election with VOTER FRAUD!
Well, not really. But you say as well say it because if McCain had won, the Democrats would be crying "voter fraud" like they do every time they lose a major election.
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Old 11-09-2008, 04:29 PM
 
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The Kill Him thing was debunked. Stop spreading hate lies.

Even though I did not vote for Bush, I have had to listen to the stupid Libs gone insane for 8 years. Now they voted in someone with ZERO related experience just to be anti Bush. Well, now it is time to return the favor. Obama has already made mistakes and he has not taken office. It will only get worse and 47% of the population will be right here to make sure the Obama supporters get an earful. What goes around comes around.
sorry, it has not been debunked; it was clearly heard by others. And when Palin and McCain were speaking the threats on Obama's life increased substantually.

I am starting to realize that you do have a lot of hate and anger. You say that you didn't vote for Bush or McCain, but you don't have half the amount of hate and anger for them as you do this african-american. You didn't read others posts or respond to them in a calm manner. I am beginning to believe now that you could be a racist. I noticed when I lived in the south I would hear things like, "I am not a racist, but I would never rent to a black person." I think you need to sit down and think about what you are saying and re-read these posts. There are good one in this thread that show that Bush and McCain wouldn't stop the abortions, but you say nothing about it.

And my question to you is, How it is that you don't ever vote for anyone but still have room to complain? What do you care if Obama or McCain won?

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Old 11-09-2008, 04:43 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Well it seems if anyone disagrees with Obama's policies, they will be labeled a racist. This is unreal. I don't know if it is people racist against whites that throw this crap out there or just a way to protect Obama from criticism. But why don't you explain to me how I can support someone who I disagree with in matters that matter so much to me such as:
  • I am 100% for protecting the life of a baby from conception on. - Obama is for allowing full term abortions.
  • The killing of a baby because of inconvenience to the mother is not something I feel should be paid for by tax payers dollars. This is a very personal moral decision. - Obama supports my tax dollars going to the killing of human life.
  • Regardless if it helps or hurts the economy, I do not believe in redistribution of wealth as Obama put it to Joe. I believe in a flat tax with zero deductions. This is the only fair way to tax people and the wealthy would pay more simply because they make more. - Obama believes he is Robin Hood and he should be able to decide how much you make and who should get your money.
There are many more, but these are 3 key issues that would prevent me from supporting Obama. Now, I am not religious in any way shape or form, so don't start with the nutty evangelical crap.

Thoughts?
Don't worry yourself too much. He can't crown himself King; though he will try. Further, our founders had the great wisdom and forethought to make it difficult for anything to happen in the blink of an eye.

Republican leaders have said there is a willingness to work with Obama to get things done, but they will serve as a "check" against the power held by Obama and the Democrats. And Mike Pence has stated that they will carry the timeless principles of limited government, a strong defense, and traditional values directly to the American people.

It is already becoming clear, that those who voted for Obama most likely had no clue what he was about; but many of us tried to warn. We were called "liars".

This isn't going to be an easy ride, and we are going to have to stay on our toes.

It may be difficult too, as it looks like there is going to be a move to reinstitute the so-called "Fairness Doctrine" (which really limits free speech), and this will hurt, maybe even destroy talk radio. I will personally fight that tooth and nail, and I suspect that there are plenty of others who will too, not the least of which are law firms such as the ACLJ (American Center for Law and Justice) and I would guess maybe even the Ruthorford Institute (John Whitehead). These are realatively new firms that fight for Constitutional principles and defend individual rights and liberty. So we will have some power on our side.
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Old 11-09-2008, 04:50 PM
 
Location: On Top
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These are realatively new firms that fight for Constitutional principles and defend individual rights and liberty.
Do you consider the bigoted vitriol that Limbauh, Hannity et al spew "principles", constitutional or otherwise?
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Old 11-09-2008, 04:50 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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This was evident over the last four years, and was made perfectly clear on November 4th.
Let's make it clear what happened on Nov. 4th:

Most of the people that voted for Obama had no clue what they were voting for. They voted out of ignorance. Obama is a "fad". It was "hip" to be for Obama.

Now we're stuck with a real unmitigated idiot and a socialist for President, and maybe a little dictator too.

And just as you didn't let us forget your dislike for Bush, don't expect us to let you forget our dislike for this guy, "That One", or "The One" (that says it all ... pure arrogance).

This guy is dangerous, and you'd better hope we can get rid of him in four years. Maybe two, if he really screws up, which he just might.
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Old 11-09-2008, 04:55 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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sorry, it has not been debunked; it was clearly heard by others. And when Palin and McCain were speaking the threats on Obama's life increased substantually.
No, it has been investigated by the FBI, and found to be false. They couldn't find even ONE person that heard such a thing.

If you think it was "clearly heard by others", who? Who's telling you that they heard it?

Perhaps you'd like to tell the FBI.
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Old 11-09-2008, 04:59 PM
 
Location: On Top
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Let's make it clear what happened on Nov. 4th:
You are likely one of the least qualified to make anything clear to us, you do need to remove the first two letters from your moniker however.
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Old 11-09-2008, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Cary - A great town for me
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Don't worry yourself too much. He can't crown himself King; though he will try. Further, our founders had the great wisdom and forethought to make it difficult for anything to happen in the blink of an eye.

Republican leaders have said there is a willingness to work with Obama to get things done, but they will serve as a "check" against the power held by Obama and the Democrats. And Mike Pence has stated that they will carry the timeless principles of limited government, a strong defense, and traditional values directly to the American people.

It is already becoming clear, that those who voted for Obama most likely had no clue what he was about; but many of us tried to warn. We were called "liars".

This isn't going to be an easy ride, and we are going to have to stay on our toes.

It may be difficult too, as it looks like there is going to be a move to reinstitute the so-called "Fairness Doctrine" (which really limits free speech), and this will hurt, maybe even destroy talk radio. I will personally fight that tooth and nail, and I suspect that there are plenty of others who will too, not the least of which are law firms such as the ACLJ (American Center for Law and Justice) and I would guess maybe even the Ruthorford Institute (John Whitehead). These are realatively new firms that fight for Constitutional principles and defend individual rights and liberty. So we will have some power on our side.

Thanks so much. I thought I was living in the twilight zone. This and your following posts are spot on and I feel much better knowing there are others with their eyes open. People will continue to throw the racist thing out there in an attempt to quiet the dissent. It won't work. It will actually work against them. I would vote for C. Rice in a heartbeat for President. The issue I have with the powers that will be is a combo attack of Obama, Pelosi, Reid & Frank. Obama supporters can pretend all they want. Obama & the Democrats won for 2 reasons only. Anti Bush & ignorant voters. Voters wanted change...any change. So they got it. Now much damage will be done that either won't be publicized or will be falsely defended, such as the unfairness doctrine. Why does it only apply to talk radio? Because it is mostly conservative. Notice how it will not affect PMSNBC, which is left wing Liberal. Yes, we are in for a world of hurt. Some good will come, but the damage will be far worse than people think. Some will be noticed over the next four years and some for decades. Funny thing is, Liberals do not care about restricting citizen rights, as long as it is what THEY think is right.

This election will go down in history as one of the most devastating events in our history. And it has nothing to do with the color of his skin. It has to do with ideology and control.

Over and out.....on this one.
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