Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 11-08-2008, 05:33 PM
 
1,058 posts, read 3,488,366 times
Reputation: 229

Advertisements

I think Ron Paul made a mistake in not running for President this year on the Libertarian ticket. He had the fire hot, but didn't strike the Iron. I doubt such a chance will present itself again for him in his political career as he is already in his 70s. Maybe a younger candidate will appear with similar ideas in the future, but I doubt it.

I don't pretend to think that Ron Paul would have won. Obama would still have won, but the Libertarians would have had a chance of splitting the Republican party and possibly replacing it as the main opposition to the Democrats. The election of 2008 could have been more like the election of 1856 when the Republicans first emerged and lost, but did suprisingly well causing a realignment in American politics.

If Ron Paul had run he would of shaken this election and the country to its core and realigned politics today. He could have attacked Obama's positions as well as McCain's on everything from the war in Iraq to healthcare to taxes to the bailouts with clear logical arguments and common sense.

The Joe the Plumbers of America would have loved him.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 11-08-2008, 05:42 PM
 
69,368 posts, read 64,108,083 times
Reputation: 9383
I'm almost shocked that he didnt meetup with Bob Barr. That would surely have shaken things up.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-08-2008, 05:44 PM
 
343 posts, read 510,388 times
Reputation: 126
freegold for everyone! *craps pants*
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-08-2008, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca
2,039 posts, read 3,279,886 times
Reputation: 1661
Quote:
Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
I'm almost shocked that he didnt meetup with Bob Barr. That would surely have shaken things up.

Agreed, i think a Paul/Barr ticket would have done great(in relative terms.)


I think maybe the party felt he'd represent too much "Republican."
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-08-2008, 05:46 PM
 
8,185 posts, read 12,639,025 times
Reputation: 2893
Quote:
Originally Posted by ecvMatt View Post
Agreed, i think a Paul/Barr ticket would have done great(in relative terms.)


I think maybe the party felt he'd represent too much "Republican."
It was my understanding that the Libertarians wanted Paul to run, and Barr even offered to step down if Paul would change his mind about the Libertarian potus nominee.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-08-2008, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
1,105 posts, read 2,733,863 times
Reputation: 602
Quote:
Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
I'm almost shocked that he didnt meetup with Bob Barr. That would surely have shaken things up.
A recent New Yorker has a profile of Bob Barr and reports that there was a bit of friction between Barr and Paul.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-08-2008, 06:22 PM
 
1,255 posts, read 3,488,188 times
Reputation: 773
Quote:
Originally Posted by geoff2v View Post
A recent New Yorker has a profile of Bob Barr and reports that there was a bit of friction between Barr and Paul.
Ron Paul DOES NOT agree with Barr at all. He only encouraged him because he represented another choice in a 2 party system.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-08-2008, 06:39 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
20,460 posts, read 26,330,678 times
Reputation: 7627
Quote:
Originally Posted by nbres View Post
I think Ron Paul made a mistake in not running for President this year on the Libertarian ticket. He had the fire hot, but didn't strike the Iron. I doubt such a chance will present itself again for him in his political career as he is already in his 70s. Maybe a younger candidate will appear with similar ideas in the future, but I doubt it.

I don't pretend to think that Ron Paul would have won. Obama would still have won, but the Libertarians would have had a chance of splitting the Republican party and possibly replacing it as the main opposition to the Democrats. The election of 2008 could have been more like the election of 1856 when the Republicans first emerged and lost, but did suprisingly well causing a realignment in American politics.

If Ron Paul had run he would of shaken this election and the country to its core and realigned politics today. He could have attacked Obama's positions as well as McCain's on everything from the war in Iraq to healthcare to taxes to the bailouts with clear logical arguments and common sense.

The Joe the Plumbers of America would have loved him.
I have to say that in general I agree with you. The fact is, folks who are unhappy with the current two parties simply have to bite the bullet if they ever expect to develop a third alternative. Without a doubt their candidate WILL lose - probably for several election cycles - but if they are persistent then eventually they will have a chance at winning. The problem is, Americans are a "I want it NOW" kind of people, and developing a viable third party is not something that will happen overnight. The result is that even though many folks out there proclaim to be unhappy with both current parties, few of them actually have the intestinal fortitude to go through with it - so they continue to b*tch and moan about how the current choices are both so bad. Everyone is so afraid of "wasting" their vote that they spend election after election voting for the "lesser of two evils" while waiting for a third party to become strong enough to have a chance rather than committing to that party to actually GIVE it a chance. The result is that they continue to all wait for someone else to make it happen rather than taking matters into their own hands and making it happen.

The fact is, if America wants a viable third option then American voters need to take a long term approach to the issue, recognizing that for many elections their vote probably will be "wasted" on a candidate that has no chance of winning. Only by persisting election after election and wearing the resistance down can these folks gradually convince the rest of America that their party can be taken seriously. Folks who would like a third option have to COMMIT to that option long term, rather than giving it a try once then giving up in discouragement and returning back their old party (whatever that party was) in the next election.

Instead, most of them continue to wait someone else to do the legwork for them - or perhaps for some "Messiah" candidate to come who can galvanize the party into winning (sorry I couldn't resist).

That's my take anyway.

For what it's worth,

Ken
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-08-2008, 06:58 PM
 
184 posts, read 359,591 times
Reputation: 56
I can't take Ron Paul supporters seriously anymore. Lunatics all of you.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 11-08-2008, 07:07 PM
 
8,185 posts, read 12,639,025 times
Reputation: 2893
Quote:
Originally Posted by carnival survivor View Post
I can't take Ron Paul supporters seriously anymore. Lunatics all of you.
Ah, your just mad because we represent real change and hope for the future
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:28 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top