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Old 11-10-2008, 03:43 AM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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The country certainly spoke loudly on Nov 4th..

They elected an articulate, inspirational leader who is interested in helping ALL Americans - not just those in a certain color state or from a certain economic class...

They also voted big-time against Bush and his fellow Republicans... it was a complete repudiation of Bush/Cheney/Rove and all the Republican minions who supported them to the hilt these past 8 years.

I personally think the Republicans face an entire generation (about 25 years) of minority status... and they will have to change radically to have a chance of regaining power...

They did a lot of damage to the support of their own core voters over the past 8 years with their war on the middle class, with their wedge-issue politics, with their motivation thru fear and thru the abomination of a decision to invade Iraq...

They also have very little support among the young - which bodes ill for many years to come...

They also lost the support they had from the Hispanic community in 2000 and 2004.

Does anyone seriously believe they will retain power any time soon?

Does anyone think a 3rd party could emerge to take their place?
I hope the Neo Con brand of conservatism goes the way of the Dodo bird. They were a group of vicious thugs and fascists who went against everything that America stood for. Most of this administration should be put in prison for the rest of their lives.
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Old 11-10-2008, 03:47 AM
 
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I figure two years or so.

Oh two years? Really?

Here's you on the Obama polls before the election

""These goofy polls are NOT accurate at all for the simple reason that not one person out there wants to be labeled as a 'racist' so when they get polled, particularly in public they say they are going for Barry Hussein....because they're too chicken to admit that they really prefer John McCain.....""

So judging by how wrong you were there.... you know what you can do with your two year prediction ...right?
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Old 11-10-2008, 05:42 AM
 
Location: The Planet Mars
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Oh two years? Really?

Here's you on the Obama polls before the election

""These goofy polls are NOT accurate at all for the simple reason that not one person out there wants to be labeled as a 'racist' so when they get polled, particularly in public they say they are going for Barry Hussein....because they're too chicken to admit that they really prefer John McCain.....""

So judging by how wrong you were there.... you know what you can do with your two year prediction ...right?
Good post!!!

Every time I read another of these anti-Obama insanity outbursts, I am more and more convinced that Obama will be a two term president!!!

Besides, admit it, their blind opposition to Obama has really turned them into pretty good stand-up comics..
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Old 11-10-2008, 05:56 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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The country certainly spoke loudly on Nov 4th..

They elected an articulate, inspirational leader who is interested in helping ALL Americans - not just those in a certain color state or from a certain economic class...

They also voted big-time against Bush and his fellow Republicans... it was a complete repudiation of Bush/Cheney/Rove and all the Republican minions who supported them to the hilt these past 8 years.

I personally think the Republicans face an entire generation (about 25 years) of minority status... and they will have to change radically to have a chance of regaining power...

They did a lot of damage to the support of their own core voters over the past 8 years with their war on the middle class, with their wedge-issue politics, with their motivation thru fear and thru the abomination of a decision to invade Iraq...

They also have very little support among the young - which bodes ill for many years to come...

They also lost the support they had from the Hispanic community in 2000 and 2004.

Does anyone seriously believe they will retain power any time soon?

Does anyone think a 3rd party could emerge to take their place?



Two years. Neat thing about young people is they learn fast. They are about to learn the difference between a leader and a speech giver. My first election was in 1980, and this man is the reason I'm a Republican.

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And this is why I am looking forward to a second Republican Revolution in 2010.


Ford 1976 D-Sen./D-House: Prime Interest rate, 6.2% . Inflation, 4.9%. Unemployment, 7.8%. Misery Index, 12.7%.


Carter 1980 D-Sen./D-House: Prime Interest rate, 20%. Inflation, 14.8%. Unemployment, 7.8%. Misery Index, 22.6%.


Reagan 1988 D-Sen./D-House: Prime Interest rate, 10.5%. Inflation, 4.2%. Unemployment, 5.3%. Misery Index, 9.5%.


Bush Sr. 1992 D-Sen./D-House: Prime Interest rate, 6.0%. Inflation, 2.9%. Unemployment, 7.4%. Misry Index, 10.3%


Clinton 2000 R-Sen./R-House: Prime Interest rate, 9.5%. Inflation, 3.7%. Unempoyment, 3.7%. Misery Index, 7.4%


Bush today D-Sen./D-House: Prime Interest rate, 4.0%. Inflation, 4.8%. Unemployment, 6.5%. Misery Index, 11.3%.



http://www.wsjprimerate.us/wall_street_journal_prime_rate_history.htm

http://www.economagic.com/em-cgi/data.exe/feddal/ru

Historical Inflation data from 1914 t the present
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Old 11-10-2008, 05:56 AM
 
Location: long island , ny
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Till the world realizes that there is no talking to countries that want us wiped off the planet ! and we have to go old school ! Its a cycle alright, cut defence ,bolst economy...get terrorized....call in John Wayne.....Build defence.....economy suffers....vote out officials, and repeat!
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Two years. Neat thing about young people is they learn fast. They are about to learn the difference between a leader and a speech giver. My first election was in 1980, and this man is the reason I'm a Republican.

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And this is why I am looking forward to a second Republican Revolution in 2010.


Ford 1976 D-Sen./D-House: Prime Interest rate, 6.2% . Inflation, 4.9%. Unemployment, 7.8%. Misery Index, 12.7%.


Carter 1980 D-Sen./D-House: Prime Interest rate, 20%. Inflation, 14.8%. Unemployment, 7.8%. Misery Index, 22.6%.


Reagan 1988 D-Sen./D-House: Prime Interest rate, 10.5%. Inflation, 4.2%. Unemployment, 5.3%. Misery Index, 9.5%.


Bush Sr. 1992 D-Sen./D-House: Prime Interest rate, 6.0%. Inflation, 2.9%. Unemployment, 7.4%. Misry Index, 10.3%


Clinton 2000 R-Sen./R-House: Prime Interest rate, 9.5%. Inflation, 3.7%. Unempoyment, 3.7%. Misery Index, 7.4%


Bush today D-Sen./D-House: Prime Interest rate, 4.0%. Inflation, 4.8%. Unemployment, 6.5%. Misery Index, 11.3%.



http://www.wsjprimerate.us/wall_street_journal_prime_rate_history.htm

http://www.economagic.com/em-cgi/data.exe/feddal/ru

Historical Inflation data from 1914 t the present
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:07 AM
 
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you do realize that those numbers show a bigger loss with the democratic projection? (and better numbers with a republican congress)?
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:12 AM
 
Location: long island , ny
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you do realize that those numbers show a bigger loss with the democratic projection? (and better numbers with a republican congress)?
He knows ! he's ''Right''
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:19 AM
 
Location: The Planet Mars
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you do realize that those numbers show a bigger loss with the democratic projection? (and better numbers with a republican congress)?
The Democratic projection is based on the reality of the true mess that Bush Republicans have made. The Republican projection is just based on more lies - like they've been dishing out for the past 8 years...

I've read in numerous places information like the graph above clearly illustrates...

The Republicans have been (ever since Reagan) the party of 'borrow and spend', and the absolute opposite of fiscal conservatives.... Future generations, who get stuck with their bill, will certainly curse them...

More reason why the Republicans have no chance for at least a generation to regain power...
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:38 AM
 
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That's a neat chart but it fails to take into account the effect a growing GDP has on the Debt-to-GDP ratio. It also doesn't take into account congressional control during the respective president's terms. Newt Gingrich dragged Clinton to the altar kicking and screaming to get the spending cuts that were denied to Reagan. You may remember that we shut down the government for a couple days to force Clinton's hand in the matter. But one does have to give Clinton credit for being a big enough slime rag so as to claim credit for the success of the tax cuts and spending reductions he fought against tooth and nail.
List of countries by public debt: Information from Answers.com
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