Hillary Clinton ethical problems......... (health care, vote, Congress, Iraq)

[MoMark]

Let's talk about Hillary Clinton's ethical problems that expose her and Bill Clinton's corruption. Just look at who he pardoned upon leaving the White House:
-Almon Glenn Braswell was pardoned of his mail fraud and perjury convictions after paying about $200,000 to Hillary’s brother, Hugh Rodham, to represent his case for clemency. He later returned the payments, but he too invoked the Fifth Amendment during a Congressional hearing.

-In 2000, Clinton pardoned Vonna Jo Gregory, owner of the carnival company United Shows International, and her husband Edgar for a 1982 bank fraud conviction. After the pardon, the company gave Hillary’s brother Anthony Rodham $107,000 in "loans” that he has never repaid.

-On his last day in office, Clinton pardoned his old friend Susan McDougal, who had already completed her sentence for her role in the Whitewater scandal. (the "fallguy" for his own dirty work)

-Clinton also pardoned his brother Roger on drug charges, and former Housing secretary Henry Cisneros, who was convicted of lying to the FBI about payments to a mistress.

-Clinton slashed the prison sentences of four men convicted of stealing millions in federal grants. The men were from a community of Hasidic Jews in New Square, N.Y., which voted 1,400 to 12 in favor of Hillary Clinton in her first Senate race.

-White Water evidence held back from Congress's investigation:
On May 16, 1996, the Senate Whitewater committee voted to subpoena FBI reports showing that Hillary Clinton's fingerprints were found on hundreds of pages of Rose law Firm documents found in the White House residence quarters in January. The records, subpoenaed in 1994, had been missing. In a two-page affidavit to Senate Whitewater investigators on June 17th, Hillary Clinton states that she "does not know" how her Rose Law Firm billing records ended up in the White House.

-Took a $100,000 bribe, camouflaged as futures trades, from Tyson Foods Inc.

-Speculated in Health Care industry futures while overseeing legislative reform of same. Hey, why not make a buck any way you can!?

-Failed to correct false testimony by co-defendant Ira Magaziner in Health Care trial.


-Obstructed justice by ordering the shredding of Vince Foster's documents in the Rose Law Firm. A Fawn Hall moment??

-Ordered members of the Health Care Task Force to shred documents that were the target of a court probe. Oops, another Fawn Hall moment.

-Ordered the removal of documents from Vince Foster's office and told aides to lie about their removal of documents.

-Obstructed justice by keeping her billing records, documents sought under subpoena, in the White House residence.

-Lied to investigators about her knowledge about billing records.

-Lied to investigators about her involvement in the Castle Grande land flip con.

-Ordered the use of the FBI to discredit Travel Office employees.

-Lied to investigators about her involvement in the firing of Travel Office Employees.


Gee Bingo...I see a pattern here...you support me and my wife's political aspirations and also give our family member "loans" we'll never repay and we'll make sure we pardon you when we have it in our power...and we'll also use the White House to protect documents crucial to Court and Congressional investigations from subpoenas!

Elect me Hillary Clinton so that I can continue to pad my pockets and give me the power to protect my cronies who help me profit by offering them the ultimate "get free" card... a presidential pardon!!!
My motto may become:

Elect me, make me or give me money, and get out of jail free!

[MattDen]

All of this seems so trivial compared to what has been going on since January 2001.

Seriously, id take what some consider the Clinton's ethics lapses over this Iraq situation Bush started anyday.

Its amazing how people have such an obcessive dislike for the Clinton's. I think the Clinton years were such good years compared to what is going on now.

[silas777]

she' never going to make it to the white house, so it doesnt matter! ALGORE is going to come in fresh off of winning his oscar the nobel peace prize, grammy, emmy and everything else they can throw at him and the planets going to get whole lot hotter when he starts his hot air tour! let the games begin !

[rdbeard5]

Originally Posted by MoMark

Let's talk about Hillary Clinton's ethical problems that expose her and Bill Clinton's corruption. Just look at who he pardoned upon leaving the White House:

MoMark - how could you leave out the granddaddy of them all: Marc Rich.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...,99302,00.html

[mb919]

Originally Posted by MattDen

All of this seems so trivial compared to what has been going on since January 2001.

Seriously, id take what some consider the Clinton's ethics lapses over this Iraq situation Bush started anyday.

Its amazing how people have such an obcessive dislike for the Clinton's. I think the Clinton years were such good years compared to what is going on now.

While I agree that the stuff MoMark points out is small potatoes in comparison to what is happening now, I think it is very relevant nonetheless in light of the fact that sHillary is positioning herself for a run at the White House.

What I find as equally reprehensible is how she is running a campaign that Karl Rove would very proud of. She is using all the Republican canards (Democrats coddle terrorists except ME, SOME PEOPLE don't take terrorism seriously, etc...) to rip apart her own party for her own selfish gains. Thankfully, despite the fact that the powers-that-be obviously want sHillary to get the Democratic nomination, people are very wise to this kind of BS after the last 2 elections and the current political climate in general. I think she'll be pretty much an also-ran by the time primary season rolls around if she keeps up this garbage.

[Dedalus]

Originally Posted by MattDen

All of this seems so trivial compared to what has been going on since January 2001.

Seriously, id take what some consider the Clinton's ethics lapses over this Iraq situation Bush started anyday.

Its amazing how people have such an obcessive dislike for the Clinton's. I think the Clinton years were such good years compared to what is going on now.

When I used to be a Republican, I'd frequently comment: nobody died in the Watergate break in. But Sam Ervin and Herman Talmadge belonged to the Southern Caucus, and lots of people died because of their stone walling of civil rights bills.

I agree with you. The shoe is on the other foot. This clown we got now makes Bill n Hill look like monuments of statesmanship. Everything the left used to say about Reagan is true about Dubya.

[MoMark]

Originally Posted by rdbeard5

MoMark - how could you leave out the granddaddy of them all: Marc Rich.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/arti...,99302,00.html

I purposely left him out because I don't understand his ties to the Clintons as well rdbeard5 But yep, I knew about him.

[sprtsluvr8]

Originally Posted by MattDen

All of this seems so trivial compared to what has been going on since January 2001.

Seriously, id take what some consider the Clinton's ethics lapses over this Iraq situation Bush started anyday.

Its amazing how people have such an obcessive dislike for the Clinton's. I think the Clinton years were such good years compared to what is going on now.

Hallelujah! I hope more people feel this way than worry about a petty list of indiscretions. "Hillary used a double negative today, grammar enthusiasts shouldn't vote for her!" Come on...

Remember haters: the Clinton"S" aren't running for office; she is only one person.

[Amaznjohn]

Originally Posted by sprtsluvr8

Hallelujah! I hope more people feel this way than worry about a petty list of indiscretions.

Petty list of indiscretions? Obstruction of Justice? Fraud? Sounds to me like an ideologue.

Remember haters: the Clinton"S" aren't running for office; she is only one person.

You actually believe this?

[mb919]

Originally Posted by Amaznjohn

Petty list of indiscretions? Obstruction of Justice? Fraud? Sounds to me like an ideologue.

You actually believe this?

Lemme guess- you think the Libby trial is a big waste of time, right?