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I find it pathetic that anyone would form their entire opinion about Ayers solely from highly-biased info found on anti-Obama websites, conservative blogs, and the like.
In reality, what you are really attempting to do is to find fault with Obama.
And by creating the delusion that Bill Ayers was some sort of evil "terrorist", and then linking him to Obama, it satisfies your need.
Try listening to the Ayers NPR interview ... instead of getting info about Ayers second-hand.
Trying being honest about what Ayers was - and continues to be unapologetic for.
It has nothing to do with Obama. Ayers was/is a domestic terrorist, much the same as Timothy McVeigh. He should be in prison, but instead he was rewarded with a job as a professor. Figures...
Trying being honest about what Ayers was - and continues to be unapologetic for.
It has nothing to do with Obama. Ayers was/is a domestic terrorist, much the same as Timothy McVeigh. He should be in prison, but instead he was rewarded with a job as a professor. Figures...
Timothy McVeigh detonated a huge bomb which destroyed the entire side of a huge, occupied Federal office building and killed hundreds of innocent people. McVeigh and his partner acted alone. They were not part of a major protest against a war like Vietnam.
Ayers was just one of thousands (millions?) of Vietnam protesters. Ayers made small bombs to destroy government property in protest of the war. He made it a point of not hurting or killing anyone, and only detonated the bombs when nobody was present. Ayers even issued advanced warnings to prevent people from being nearby when the bomb exploded.
He and his wife Bernadette Dorn just appeared on Link TV's Democracy Now.. Perhaps the interview will be up on DN's website.. A smart, middle-age couple (not terrorists) who are now both college professors and utterly harmless but still totally dedicated to the principles of peace and protecting human life. Impressive folks who care deeply about democracy and their country but were craftily turned into terrorists, symbols of fear.
Note - when they finally emerged with their sons from the 'underground' they were never prosecuted for their supposed crimes.
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Timothy McVeigh detonated a huge bomb which destroyed the entire side of a huge, occupied Federal office building and killed hundreds of innocent people. McVeigh and his partner acted alone. They were not part of a major protest against a war like Vietnam.
Ayers was just one of thousands (millions?) of Vietnam protesters. Ayers made small bombs to destroy government property in protest of the war. He made it a point of not hurting or killing anyone, and only detonated the bombs when nobody was present. Ayers even issued advanced warnings to prevent people from being nearby when the bomb exploded.
How can you possibly compare Ayers to McVeigh?
It's easy. They're both unrepentant domestic terrorists.
He and his wife Bernadette Dorn just appeared on Link TV's Democracy Now.. Perhaps the interview will be up on DN's website.. A smart, middle-age couple (not terrorists) who are now both college professors and utterly harmless but still totally dedicated to the principles of peace and protecting human life. Impressive folks who care deeply about democracy and their country but were craftily turned into terrorists, symbols of fear.
Note - when they finally emerged with their sons from the 'underground' they were never prosecuted for their supposed crimes.
So then... all the stuff he did in the 60s - that he remains completely unrepentant for - was all made up? Or doesn't matter?
So then... all the stuff he did in the 60s - that he remains completely unrepentant for - was all made up? Or doesn't matter?
Should we also go back and find the thousands of other Vietnam protesters, and prosecute all of them for whatever violent actions they may have taken at that time ?
Keep in mind some of them may be your past teachers, college professors, neighbors, friends, family members, etc.
Should we also go back and find the thousands of other Vietnam protesters, and prosecute all of them for whatever violent actions they may taken at that time ?
Keep in mind some of them may have been your past teachers, college professors, neighbors, friends, family members, etc.
Should Nazis have been hunted down and prosecuted? Or were they just protesting all the bad things Jews had done?
See how easy that is?
And by the way, unless I'm mistaken, there's quite a difference between a peaceful protest and bombing stuff. But maybe that's just me...
Should Nazis have been hunted down and prosecuted? Or were they just protesting all the bad things Jews had done?
See how easy that is?
And by the way, unless I'm mistaken, there's quite a difference between a peaceful protest and bombing stuff. But maybe that's just me...
So now you are comparing the Nazi's to the Vietnam protesters?
You think that Nazis killing 5 million innocent Jews in death chambers during the Holocaust somehow compares to the thousands of American citizens who were trying to end a senseless war in Vietnam?
So now you are comparing the Nazi's to the Vietnam protesters?
You think that Nazis killing 5 million innocent Jews in death chambers during the Holocaust somehow compares to the thousands of American citizens who were trying to end a senseless war in Vietnam?
No, that's not what I'm doing at all.
YOU are the one who is saying we shouldn't hold people accountable for what they did years ago.
So then... all the stuff he did in the 60s - that he remains completely unrepentant for - was all made up? Or doesn't matter?
Come on!! If he'd still been considered a TERRORIST after the Viet Nam War ended, don't you think he'd have been arrested and tried for his supposed crimes? As he said in the Democracy Now interview, the right used him pretty darn effectively to try to undermine Obama's reputation. Ayers just happened to live in Obama's neighborhood - they weren't actually *friends*.. The way the right portrayed it they may as well have been companions in terrorism..
Ugh - it's all over folks.. Let's worry about the next paycheck being there.
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