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Old 11-30-2008, 11:44 AM
 
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...how do you, as a supporter of Obama proceed?

Do you, looking at a 5-4 decision with the usual characters on each side, deride this as an example of the right wing stealing an election from us?

Or do you stare in amazement, but grant that our system of justice works and accept the lawful decision, as you prepare to support President Biden?
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Old 11-30-2008, 11:51 AM
 
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If that were their ruling, I don't even know what the law would say about his successor... Would it be Biden???

If so, I would be very disheartened, but I'd follow the rule of law - as would most Americans... but there would be a tremendous amount of social unrest - many would feel that the court stole the election from the people once more...

I think you might even see Constitutional Ammendments floated to limit the court's power in such events - probably at least to remove their lifetime-appointment priviledge.

However, I give it about one chance in a million of ever coming to pass...
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:01 PM
 
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Actually, if the Supreme Court were to rule Obama ineligible to be President, wouldn't McCain be president then???

I'd definitely have to give up plans for going back on the wagon if that were to happen....

But the country would survive - it always does.
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:17 PM
 
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Here's my opinion.


First of all, the Supreme Court isn't going to actually hear the evidence since no evidence has yet to be presented. It will have to rule that the case be submitted for trial in a lower court. Second, if this all takes place after the Electoral College votes and Obama is sworn in, highly likely, the only body that has the power to remove a President is the U.S. Congress and the only method that it has for doing so would be by impeachment. So, what would that look like? A Democratic majority in the House would weigh the evidence of the Kooters vs. the sworn testimony of state officials. Fat chance of articles of impeachment being sent to the Democratic majority Senate where a 2/3rds vote will be required to remove Obama.
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:25 PM
 
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> For the sake of the discussion, assume that the Supreme Court decides against Obama...

Uh, what case is before the Supreme Court that Obama has a direct interest in??
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:29 PM
 
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Actually, if the Supreme Court were to rule Obama ineligible to be President, wouldn't McCain be president then???

I'd definitely have to give up plans for going back on the wagon if that were to happen....

But the country would survive - it always does.
IMO, it would end up being Nancy Pelosi. Or, conceivably, Sarah Palin.

It would not be McCain because he conceded. There is no provision to undo a concession.

Nor would it be Hillary Clinton because the rule is the dnc can choose whomever they wish in whatever way they wish. Obama was chosen, and that's the end of that. There is no provision to undo a decision, especially after an election. For the same reason, it cannot be another republican candidate with the possible exception of Sarah Palin. It could be argued that a VP candidate who did not concede could conceivably carry on in McCain's stead.

So I sure hope the people pursuing this like the idea of Pelosi as president. I have a feeling they haven't thought that far in advance.

But not to worry, this baloney isn't going anywhere and everybody knows it (no matter how much faux outrage they muster).
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:30 PM
 
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> For the sake of the discussion, assume that the Supreme Court decides against Obama...

Uh, what case is before the Supreme Court that Obama has a direct interest in??
The court is going to discuss the merits of HEARING the Donofrio case this Friday. It is NOT going to hear the case, just to debate whether it should at some future date.

A quote from the 11/26/2008 edition of The Bulletin:

"In New Jersey, Leo Donofrio filed suit against New Jersey Secretary of State Nina Wells, asserting she had not maintained the integrity of the electoral process. His case was rejected at the state level, and he presented it to Supreme Court Justice David Souter. When Justice Souter rejected the case, Mr. Donofrio presented it to Justice Clarence Thomas, who docketed it for conference on Dec. 5. In that conference, if four of the nine Supreme Court justices decide to accept the case, then hearings will be scheduled for the case."
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:31 PM
 
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Wow, I can hardly imagine the civil unrest, the violence we would have in this country if that happened.

...It would be truly ugly....
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:33 PM
 
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It is NOT going to hear the case, just to debate whether it should at some future date.
How 'bout 8 years and 52 days from now?
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:33 PM
 
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Wow, I can hardly imagine the civil unrest, the violence we would have in this country if that happened.

...It would be truly ugly....

By those who supported obama, I presume?
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