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View Poll Results: Is Israel doomed under Hussein Obama? Are they an easy prey for Iran?
Yes. Israel is doomed. Obama will allow Iran to get nukes and it is over for them! 9 39.13%
No, Israel will be fine under a "umbrella pack" from Obama. It will deter Iran. 7 30.43%
Maybe they are doomed, maybe Hussein's policies will change 3 13.04%
I don't know / other. 4 17.39%
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Old 12-14-2008, 07:01 PM
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This is STORY is very telling about this moron that has been recently selected President by George Soros and the liberal media.

To summarize, Obama is offering to Israel the same security arrangement that the US has successfully provide to Western Europe for more than 60 years. It is a recognition that there may not be anything realistic to do about Iran acquiring nuclear weapons. With that growing reality, Obama is stating the same doctrine of mutually assured destruction to Iran that if has issued to the Soviet Union and subsequently Russia.

Am I missing anything?
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Hey OP - did you ever successfully complete an English class in your entire life?? If so, you are in dire need of a refresher course . . .
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To summarize, Obama is offering to Israel the same security arrangement that the US has successfully provide to Western Europe for more than 60 years. It is a recognition that there may not be anything realistic to do about Iran acquiring nuclear weapons. With that growing reality, Obama is stating the same doctrine of mutually assured destruction to Iran that if has issued to the Soviet Union and subsequently Russia.

Am I missing anything?

Yes; you are missing what Israel has said about that;they will not allow iran to acquire nuclear power. They are quite capable of taking care of themselves as they have in the past and are not western europe as seen when attacked numerous times. Remeber that they have aready shown that they will atack reactors and can successfully. What Umbrealla are you takihng about;I didn't see any when they were attacked by missles just recently.We would have attacked russia if they had done that under NATO treaty agreements. Israel is not europe and is capable and will act in their own defense;no one doubts that.let face it Europoe is not capable as seen in the not so distant Bosnian sitution.

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Here's my poll choice:

Screw Israel. Those creeps have brought all their misery on themselves and are unworthy of our help or attention.
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Yes; you are missing what Israel has said about that;they will not allow iran to acquire nuclear power. They are quite capable of taking care of themselves as they have in the past and are not western europe as seen when attacked numerous times. Remeber that they have aready shown that they will atack reactors and can successfully.
If you believe all that, why is the OP frothing at the mouth about Obama's plan, since it's not going to go into effect anyway?
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Yes; you are missing what Israel has said about that;they will not allow iran to acquire nuclear power. They are quite capable of taking care of themselves as they have in the past and are not western europe as seen when attacked numerous times.
When on god's green earth in the last 200 years has Western Europe been attacked by anyone other than another country in Western Europe?


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What Umbrealla are you takihng about;I didn't see any when they were attacked by missles just recently.
Proper nouns have a reason for existing, who in the hell are you referring to, short range conventional missiles from Gaza? Clearly the US isn't going to nuke anybody over conventional weapons, get real! Secondly, this is a proposal to reduce tensions so that Israel does feel a need to attack Iran which by the way would play hell with American policies in Iraq.

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Israel is not europe and is capable and will act in their own defense;no one doubts that.let face it Europoe is not capable as seen in the not so distant Bosnian sitution.
To say that you are making utterly no sense would be charitable.
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Hussein does not live in Iran. Actually, Hussein is dead. Newsflash.
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I understand that Israel is supposedly our ally and friend. I understand that they have a great deal of support here in the USA. What I don't understand is why they rate such loyalty and attention. We have many allies that have proven themselves to be equally if not more important. WE have many allies that are more loyal but receive far less aid. Why the preoccupation with a country who has in the past been less than loyal and quite possibly more than any other ally put us in difficult positions due to their actions.
I don't want to see Israel nuked. At the same time I also understand that Israel's interests are not always in the best interests to the USA. We screamed bloody murder when Russia invaded Georgia. But when Israel invaded Lebanon we took Israels side. How was Israel less wrong than Russia for basically responding exacly the same way for much the same reasons. One big difference is that the Russians killed far less civilians.
I am no fan of Russia and pretty much dislike them. I am a cold war warrior old habits die hard.
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tinman, you ask a lot of good questions. When you find the answers, you will fully realize in what a horrible and bipartisan manner this country has been screwed over by almost every president since 1948.
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What part of strong vocal constituency don't you understand (plus a little collective guilt)?
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