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View Poll Results: Is Israel doomed under Hussein Obama? Are they an easy prey for Iran?
Yes. Israel is doomed. Obama will allow Iran to get nukes and it is over for them! 9 39.13%
No, Israel will be fine under a "umbrella pack" from Obama. It will deter Iran. 7 30.43%
Maybe they are doomed, maybe Hussein's policies will change 3 13.04%
I don't know / other. 4 17.39%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-13-2008, 03:43 AM
 
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This is STORY (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2008/12/11/report-obama-offer-israel-nuclear-umbrella-iran/ - broken link) is very telling about this moron that has been recently selected President by George Soros and the liberal media.

The moron has come up with a "plan (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2008/12/11/report-obama-offer-israel-nuclear-umbrella-iran/ - broken link)" that basically operates under the concept that if you promise Israel that the USA would retaliate against Iran with its nuclear arsenal, than Israel should be OK under the "protection" of the US. The plan allows Iran to get nuclear weapons and plans to "deter" the terrorist state from attacking Israel under the promises that if Iran attacks Israel with nukes, then the US would nuke Iran back into the stone age.

Other than have been involved with clearly an enormous group of corrupt, anti-American, racist, and even terrorist individuals from S#itcago, this also shows just how foolish and naive Mr. Hussein Obama truly is.

Let's look at logic reasons that a 5 year old can understand, since anything harder would make it impossible for Idiot-In-Chief-to-be to understand:

1. The Israelis won't be alive to see Iran get nuked. What will be the point, really, once 6 million Israelis are dead, to just go and kill 50 million Iranians in return? Is mass chaos all Mr. Hussein Obama can come up with?? He is already stood by while babies born alive after botched abortions in Illinois were tossed into garbage cans and are denied medical treatment. Now he wants to stand by while 6 million Israelis die and then ensure that 50 million Iranians die in return?!?!


2. It makes it sound like Obama will allow Iran to get nukes, which is insane. Iran could and most likely would arm a terror group to detonate a nuke(s) WITHIN the USA!! Isn't it smarter to AVOID 6 - 56 million deaths than have to promise to retaliate and allow a terrorist nation to acquire nukes?!?! Does it make more sense to prevent a nuclear war or to promise one?!!?

3. What guarantees do we have that Obama, a known "flip-flopper", a weak-willed guy, and all around deceiver would follow through with the promises of retaliation?


4. Allowing an evil nation to acquire the planet's most powerful and most destructive weapons is appeasement as its worst. We have tried this with Adolf Hitler and it did NOT work; the world's people suffered immensely and we ended up with 77 million dead. But Mr. Obama wouldn't know, as we don't teach History in public schools any longer as as Mr. Obama is now "writing history" under his "historical victory", who cares about what happened in the 1930s and 1940s anways, huh?

5. Ok, say Russia decides to grant Iran a "nuclear umbrella" as well. Then what? Is the US gonna nuke Iran if Iran nukes Israel, therefore triggering a nuclear war with Russia?!


See full story: Report: Obama to Offer Israel 'Nuclear Umbrella' Against Iran - FOXNews.com Transition Tracker (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2008/12/11/report-obama-offer-israel-nuclear-umbrella-iran/ - broken link)

This only shows two key issues about the upcoming Idiot-In-Chief:

a) Obama is NOT ready for prime time and is being ill-advised. Flat out stupid and/or incompetent also come to mind.

b) Obama is extremely weak and incredibly naive.

No surprise either way you look at it.

Now the teleprompters are off, the speech-writers are on vacation, and he cannot vote "Present". Now reality sets in. The Idiot-in-Chief to be has to make a DECISION and for the first time in his life, take a stand and this is what we get.

A slumping economy, the promise of $7+ TRILLION Dollars in deficit, out of control spending, double digit inflation, unemployment, and interest rates. Now the threat of nuclear war with Iran or possibly even Russia and an even more possible nuke going off on US soil. Lovely!

God help us make it through at least 2009. It will be awesome IF we make it past 2009 without the US turning into a 3rd world country.
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:21 AM
 
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Harvesting sour grapes your main job or just a hobby?



How about another choice in the poll?

Israel is not a US state and should fight their own battles.
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:29 AM
 
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God help us make it through at least 2009. It will be awesome IF we make it past 2009 without the US turning into a 3rd world country.
That was a given if the senile old 'war is the answer' fool had been elected. And yes, Bush & Co. have us rushing headlong toward becoming a 3rd world company, and I don't know if anyone can actually prevent it.

PS: god ain't got a thing to do with it, he/she/it is an imaginary diety.
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Old 12-13-2008, 08:43 AM
 
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This thread was deleted once already, and deservedly so. Moderators?
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:06 AM
 
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This thread was deleted once already, and deservedly so. Moderators?
why does this thread deserve to be deleted? Because you don't agree with it? Because the mods don't agree with it?
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Old 12-14-2008, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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This is STORY (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2008/12/11/report-obama-offer-israel-nuclear-umbrella-iran/ - broken link) is very telling about this moron that has been recently selected President by George Soros and the liberal media.

The moron has come up with a "plan (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2008/12/11/report-obama-offer-israel-nuclear-umbrella-iran/ - broken link)" that basically operates under the concept that if you promise Israel that the USA would retaliate against Iran with its nuclear arsenal, than Israel should be OK under the "protection" of the US. The plan allows Iran to get nuclear weapons and plans to "deter" the terrorist state from attacking Israel under the promises that if Iran attacks Israel with nukes, then the US would nuke Iran back into the stone age.

Other than have been involved with clearly an enormous group of corrupt, anti-American, racist, and even terrorist individuals from S#itcago, this also shows just how foolish and naive Mr. Hussein Obama truly is.

Let's look at logic reasons that a 5 year old can understand, since anything harder would make it impossible for Idiot-In-Chief-to-be to understand:

1. The Israelis won't be alive to see Iran get nuked. What will be the point, really, once 6 million Israelis are dead, to just go and kill 50 million Iranians in return? Is mass chaos all Mr. Hussein Obama can come up with?? He is already stood by while babies born alive after botched abortions in Illinois were tossed into garbage cans and are denied medical treatment. Now he wants to stand by while 6 million Israelis die and then ensure that 50 million Iranians die in return?!?!


2. It makes it sound like Obama will allow Iran to get nukes, which is insane. Iran could and most likely would arm a terror group to detonate a nuke(s) WITHIN the USA!! Isn't it smarter to AVOID 6 - 56 million deaths than have to promise to retaliate and allow a terrorist nation to acquire nukes?!?! Does it make more sense to prevent a nuclear war or to promise one?!!?

3. What guarantees do we have that Obama, a known "flip-flopper", a weak-willed guy, and all around deceiver would follow through with the promises of retaliation?


4. Allowing an evil nation to acquire the planet's most powerful and most destructive weapons is appeasement as its worst. We have tried this with Adolf Hitler and it did NOT work; the world's people suffered immensely and we ended up with 77 million dead. But Mr. Obama wouldn't know, as we don't teach History in public schools any longer as as Mr. Obama is now "writing history" under his "historical victory", who cares about what happened in the 1930s and 1940s anways, huh?

5. Ok, say Russia decides to grant Iran a "nuclear umbrella" as well. Then what? Is the US gonna nuke Iran if Iran nukes Israel, therefore triggering a nuclear war with Russia?!


See full story: Report: Obama to Offer Israel 'Nuclear Umbrella' Against Iran - FOXNews.com Transition Tracker (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2008/12/11/report-obama-offer-israel-nuclear-umbrella-iran/ - broken link)

This only shows two key issues about the upcoming Idiot-In-Chief:

a) Obama is NOT ready for prime time and is being ill-advised. Flat out stupid and/or incompetent also come to mind.

b) Obama is extremely weak and incredibly naive.

No surprise either way you look at it.

Now the teleprompters are off, the speech-writers are on vacation, and he cannot vote "Present". Now reality sets in. The Idiot-in-Chief to be has to make a DECISION and for the first time in his life, take a stand and this is what we get.

A slumping economy, the promise of $7+ TRILLION Dollars in deficit, out of control spending, double digit inflation, unemployment, and interest rates. Now the threat of nuclear war with Iran or possibly even Russia and an even more possible nuke going off on US soil. Lovely!

God help us make it through at least 2009. It will be awesome IF we make it past 2009 without the US turning into a 3rd world country.
You do not have to worry about Israel, they have enough nukes to handle anything thrown their way. Now the rest of the world if they are threatened........?
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Old 12-14-2008, 10:12 AM
 
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The fact of the matter is this:

The USA is NOT going to go to war with Iran over the "possibility" of nukes. We are "war tired" now and we do not have the money or manpower to fight another one anyway. So us issuing threats against Iran are empty and Iran knows it.
Israel, despite its saber rattling, is not going to attack Iran. We don't want that and Iran is far away from Israel and most of the targets are underground anyway. The chances of sucess are slim and Israel certainly is not going to invade Iran which would be required to destroy the programme.
So therefore the only option left is detente' since it appears that Iran is soon going to join the nations of nukes. We must let them know that the policy will be that, if they nuke anybody, they will be nuked. They might be religious nutcases but even they are not that insane.
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Old 12-14-2008, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Can't Israel just take care of itself now? The longer we stay there and mess around with them, the longer the Muslims are going to hate us.
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Old 12-14-2008, 10:23 AM
 
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why does this thread deserve to be deleted? Because you don't agree with it? Because the mods don't agree with it?
Uh, because it's lame and unsubstantiated? Derrrrrr...
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Old 12-14-2008, 05:05 PM
 
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A slumping economy, the promise of $7+ TRILLION Dollars in deficit, out of control spending, double digit inflation, unemployment, and interest rates. Now the threat of nuclear war with Iran or possibly even Russia and an even more possible nuke going off on US soil. Lovely!

a bit paranoid are we? and who pray tell is responsible for the current mess we are in? It certainly isn't Obama FUN2DAY but your blind hatred for him is beyond absurd. How is this article credible with the following paragraph:

Haaretz, quoting an unnamed source, said the Obama administration would pledge under the proposed "nuclear umbrella" to respond to any Iranian strike on Israel with a "devastating U.S. nuclear response."

a unnamed source? Obama hasn't publicly stated this and by most estimates Iran is at least a decade away from obtaining a nuke. Israel has been fighting for it's very existance since day one & they are more than capable of defending themselves.
What do you propose we do? Bomb Iran and start another war with them? Why don't you face reality & realize we can't save the entire world?
By the way using FOX News as a source is laughable at best since they have been on a anti Obama campaign since the day he decided to run.
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