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Old 12-20-2008, 06:43 PM
 
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YouTube - U.S. Economy : The Philosopher's Stone

You won't hear O'Reilly, Hannity, or any other Neocon puppetheads talking about how Paul was actually correct in his beliefs, and actually understood and acknowledged what was happening. Who's looking out for you? Not O'Reilly or the rest of the dunderheads who read from talking points issued to them by banker-controled politicians and interest groups.
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Old 12-20-2008, 06:51 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Peter Schiff and Ron Paul were the only people telling us what we needed to hear. Too bad most people absorbed what they wanted to hear.
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The problem is reality, that Ron Paul's platform works against him. He puts his libertarian ways above what GOP base actually cares about, and that puts him in a losing position. Given that, what he suggests will remain, largely, a theory, not to be proven, or disproven.
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Road Warrior
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The problem is reality, that Ron Paul's platform works against him. He puts his libertarian ways above what GOP base actually cares about, and that puts him in a losing position. Given that, what he suggests will remain, largely, a theory, not to be proven, or disproven.
Perhaps one of the most conservative presidents, Reagan once said, "I didn't leave the Democrat party, the party left me" ... on his farewell speech he left saying "Men are not free unless government is limited" where the people should be the driver of the machine (democracy) and not the other way around. Today we have a handful in the elite who control 300 million people, it is the other way around and it is no wonder the rich keep getting richer and the poor get poorer. Our system is now the driver, running over everyone as if they are mere speed bumps.

You basically have the Democrats today who may vow for liberal social causes and the Republicans who vow for conservative social causes and half our nation is divided rallying for the two on social issues which have already established for the most part, but that's only 10% of the picture ... the other 90% they are basically the same, Democrats and Republicans spend like theirs no tommorow and are always seeking to extend their greedy hands into every corner of the globe.

Ron Paul who is nicknamed Dr. No has never voted to increase taxes, being the most fiscal conservative politician. He was not only was right about the economy and nationalization he also predicted the Russia-Georgia conflict back in 2002. If you look at the bigger picture, it's not hard to see what is happening. Regean once said, "The Democrats see every day as 4/15 (tax day) while Republicans see every day as 7/4". Today BOTH the Democrat party and the Republican party see everyday as 4/15.


YouTube - US Politician predicted Georgia Conflict Back in 2002

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Old 12-20-2008, 07:52 PM
 
Location: San Salvador, El Salvador
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YouTube - U.S. Economy : The Philosopher's Stone

You won't hear O'Reilly, Hannity, or any other Neocon puppetheads talking about how Paul was actually correct in his beliefs, and actually understood and acknowledged what was happening. Who's looking out for you? Not O'Reilly or the rest of the dunderheads who read from talking points issued to them by banker-controled politicians and interest groups.


Dr. Paul is a smart man, he's a true American Hero!
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Old 12-20-2008, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Sacramento
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Some alternative perspectives in this thread, for those interested in seeing other points of view:

Economic predictions from 2002, pretty amazing really
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Old 12-21-2008, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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YouTube - U.S. Economy : The Philosopher's Stone

You won't hear O'Reilly, Hannity, or any other Neocon puppetheads talking about how Paul was actually correct in his beliefs, and actually understood and acknowledged what was happening. Who's looking out for you? Not O'Reilly or the rest of the dunderheads who read from talking points issued to them by banker-controled politicians and interest groups.
America needs but does not deserve a president like Ron Paul.
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Old 12-21-2008, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth/Dallas
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Perhaps one of the most conservative presidents, Reagan once said, "I didn't leave the Democrat party, the party left me" ... on his farewell speech he left saying "Men are not free unless government is limited" where the people should be the driver of the machine (democracy) and not the other way around. Today we have a handful in the elite who control 300 million people, it is the other way around and it is no wonder the rich keep getting richer and the poor get poorer. Our system is now the driver, running over everyone as if they are mere speed bumps.

You basically have the Democrats today who may vow for liberal social causes and the Republicans who vow for conservative social causes and half our nation is divided rallying for the two on social issues which have already established for the most part, but that's only 10% of the picture ... the other 90% they are basically the same, Democrats and Republicans spend like theirs no tommorow and are always seeking to extend their greedy hands into every corner of the globe.

Ron Paul who is nicknamed Dr. No has never voted to increase taxes, being the most fiscal conservative politician. He was not only was right about the economy and nationalization he also predicted the Russia-Georgia conflict back in 2002. If you look at the bigger picture, it's not hard to see what is happening. Regean once said, "The Democrats see every day as 4/15 (tax day) while Republicans see every day as 7/4". Today BOTH the Democrat party and the Republican party see everyday as 4/15.


YouTube - US Politician predicted Georgia Conflict Back in 2002

YouTube - Ron Paul "We're On The Way To Nationalization"

YouTube - Ronald Reagan's Farewell Address

Great post. And very true.
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Old 12-21-2008, 06:12 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Perhaps one of the most conservative presidents, Reagan once said, "I didn't leave the Democrat party, the party left me" ... on his farewell speech he left saying "Men are not free unless government is limited" where the people should be the driver of the machine (democracy) and not the other way around. Today we have a handful in the elite who control 300 million people, it is the other way around and it is no wonder the rich keep getting richer and the poor get poorer. Our system is now the driver, running over everyone as if they are mere speed bumps.

You basically have the Democrats today who may vow for liberal social causes and the Republicans who vow for conservative social causes and half our nation is divided rallying for the two on social issues which have already established for the most part, but that's only 10% of the picture ... the other 90% they are basically the same, Democrats and Republicans spend like theirs no tommorow and are always seeking to extend their greedy hands into every corner of the globe.

Ron Paul who is nicknamed Dr. No has never voted to increase taxes, being the most fiscal conservative politician. He was not only was right about the economy and nationalization he also predicted the Russia-Georgia conflict back in 2002. If you look at the bigger picture, it's not hard to see what is happening. Regean once said, "The Democrats see every day as 4/15 (tax day) while Republicans see every day as 7/4". Today BOTH the Democrat party and the Republican party see everyday as 4/15.

what you write in here are some of the reasons that I believe that a revolutionary war or a civil war is only a matter of time to happen inside the USA.

with a major recession/depression happening, more unemployment, and politicians only wanting to raise taxes. the time is ripe for major civil unrest to happen.

the democrats and politicians will never trust the military to put down a american uprising, and they shall have to rely on the UN for troops.

once that happens and you have blue beanies running the show, the conflict that happens shall make all of our previous wars seem small in comparison.
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Old 12-23-2008, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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what you write in here are some of the reasons that I believe that a revolutionary war or a civil war is only a matter of time to happen inside the USA.

with a major recession/depression happening, more unemployment, and politicians only wanting to raise taxes. the time is ripe for major civil unrest to happen.

the democrats and politicians will never trust the military to put down a american uprising, and they shall have to rely on the UN for troops.

once that happens and you have blue beanies running the show, the conflict that happens shall make all of our previous wars seem small in comparison.
WOW!!!! Was that just a piece of the sky falling????
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