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Old 12-24-2008, 10:51 AM
 
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Originally Posted by delusianne View Post
Youtube videos are not news from the wires or sworn testimony or government documents.

Could you please find the sources for the key statements in and conclusions drawn by the videos and link to those?
Oh, I see that you actually didnt see the video.
the video is from Foxnews, and the video has the actual videos of them in congress...
And the conclusion is on the video also.
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Hiawatha neighborhood of Minneapolis
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I have provided a video, please see it,
It will show you how many times Bush tried to stop it.
the good thing about it is in video, no way around it.

Oh can you provide actual evidence please.

YouTube - Fox News Special Report on The Banking Crisis
Yeah...you use youtube videos as evidence...

Really reliable source there.

Selective editing from an arm of the Republican party, Fox News...

LOL
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:57 AM
 
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Yeah...you use youtube videos as evidence...

Really reliable source there.

Selective editing from an arm of the Republican party, Fox News...

LOL
is a foxnews report, posted on youtube.
Is not a youtube,
Please see it.
I guess news stations are not reliable source.
Or even when you see the person talking to congress.
Oh and the video is not edited.
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Hiawatha neighborhood of Minneapolis
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Recorded votes for Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2007:

Democrats voting Aye: 223
Republicans voting Aye: 90

Democrats voting Nay: 0
Republicans voting Nay: 107

Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2007 - Congresspedia
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Old 12-24-2008, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Hiawatha neighborhood of Minneapolis
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is a foxnews report, posted on youtube.
Is not a youtube,
Please see it.
I guess news stations are not reliable source.
Or even when you see the person talking to congress.
Oh and the video is not edited.

The report itself is selectively edited to paint a false picture of what actually happened. You can check vote counts online quite easily. Furthermore, the GOP controlled both houses of Congress and the Presidency until the mid-term elections of 2006, seating a Democratic majority only in early 2007. GOP control, particularly in the House, was characterized by completely ignoring and marginalising the minority party.
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Old 12-24-2008, 11:03 AM
 
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is a foxnews report, posted on youtube.
Is not a youtube,
Please see it.
I guess news stations are not reliable source.
Or even when you see the person talking to congress.
Oh and the video is not edited.
No, they're not reliable sources. News programs edit just as an editor edits with his red pencil. Remember a few months ago, before Sarah Palin was nominated, when Katie Couric's NBC program edited a bit of John McCain's comments to help protect him from his own stupid statement? I think that's why they sent Sarah to her - they figured NBC would be sympathetic and would patch her up in the editing room as they had done for John. Unfortunately, NBC decided to find some integrity and NOT edit Sarah as she babbled on, and she wound up looking like the ignorant dissembler she actually was. Editing is magic! Sorry to digress.

A video from C-SPAN would be absolutely believable however!
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Old 12-24-2008, 11:08 AM
 
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No, they're not reliable sources. News stations edit just as an editor edits with his red pencil. Remember a few months ago, before Sarah Palin was nominated, when Katie Couric's NBC program edited a bit of John McCain's comments to help protect him? I think that's why they sent Sarah to her - they figured NBC would be sympathetic and would patch her up in the editing room as they had for John. Unfortunately, NBC decided to have some integrity and just hold the camera on Sarah as she babbled on, and on, and on. Sorry to digress.

A video from C-SPAN would be absolutely believable however!
well you can see on the video what they said.
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Old 12-24-2008, 11:09 AM
 
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Recorded votes for Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2007:

Democrats voting Aye: 223
Republicans voting Aye: 90

Democrats voting Nay: 0
Republicans voting Nay: 107

Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2007 - Congresspedia
And how many republics act was not passed? Like the one with McCain
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Old 12-24-2008, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Hiawatha neighborhood of Minneapolis
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And how many republics act was not passed? Like the one with McCain
You tell me: does the Youtube video you cited give any actual names of bills? Does it even say in what year any such bills were forwarded? Can you verify what Faux News inferred in its propaganda piece? Does the opacity (i.e.: difficulty in confirming or debunking the video's points) of the video give you any suspicion whatsoever that you are being manipulated by selective editing and lack of verifiable facts?
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Old 12-24-2008, 11:12 AM
 
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well you can see on the video what they said.
But they may be clipped out of context to fit a particular narrative, and the announcer interprets for us, the viewers.
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