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Old 12-24-2008, 01:56 PM
 
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well I don't know if a endorsement by Pat Robertson is necessarily a good thing!
JAMES ABILENE, Obama never came off to me as a Socialist/Marxist or whatever the crazy right wing wanted to paint him as.
He is a pragmatist and I think most Americans saw that in him hence why he was elected.
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Home is where the heart is
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Wait a minute. Isn't this the crowd that consistently paints Robertson and his ilk as a big ole scary monster? So, in this instance, you're reading Robertson's words and agreeing with him? Heh. We'll remember this when y'all revert to your "scary monster" rhetoric about the Religious Right.

Just a tip -- ignore the fringes. They don't matter in the least.
Oh, he's still a big ole scary monster... and that makes it an especially pleasant surprise when he takes a moment to something nice to say like this.
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:20 PM
 
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well I don't know if a endorsement by Pat Robertson is necessarily a good thing!
I do. Whether you agree with him or not, he represents a large segment of people. Obama will be president to all Americans, including the ones shepherded by Robertson. A statement like this helps end all the divisiveness that's been doing so much damage to our country. So I am delighted to see this olive branch of unity.
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Old 12-24-2008, 03:03 PM
 
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This coming from a man who said "Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians" -- Pat Robertson - speech at GOP Presidential Convention (1992)

He is either bi-polar or an opportunistic sycophant that would sell his soul for personal favor. A true model of righteousness.

Of course some could say that he had a change of heart for all other reasons other than guilt.

I think Mark Twain nailed Pat Robertson though,
In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
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Old 12-24-2008, 03:19 PM
 
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Huh. This article from 2003 about Pat's old business partner Charles Taylor - news to me, maybe to you too -

Pat Robertson partner Charles Taylor funded Al-Qaeda, report says

2004: Al Qaeda's Growing Sanctuary (washingtonpost.com)
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Old 12-24-2008, 03:36 PM
 
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Huh. This article from 2003 about Pat's old business partner Charles Taylor - news to me, maybe to you too -

Pat Robertson partner Charles Taylor funded Al-Qaeda, report says

2004: Al Qaeda's Growing Sanctuary (washingtonpost.com)
Old news, actually. I know that caused a big kerfuffle before the 2004 election, but then rather quickly just fizzled out. I'm not sure whether it's because there wasn't much merit to it, or because people just get bored quickly.
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Old 12-24-2008, 07:36 PM
 
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Maybe this is nearly the end of the dominionist Religious Right. I dont know if Focus on the Family has yet responded to their invitation from the Obama team to participate in a "National Day of Service for Martin Luther King Day, the day before the inauguration," but I look forward to learning their answer.

For Focus on the Family, a Tricky Invitation From President-Elect Obama - God & Country (usnews.com)

Wow, delu. Talk about being between a rock and a hard place. You see, what these guys didn't realize is that when you align yourself with a party, you paint yourself into a corner and lose your own credibility. Personally, my respect for Dobson would go way up if he did accept the invitation--I might not think he's a Republican with a cross. And I say this as a guy who listens to FOTF fairly regularly.

But because this olive branch thing with evangelicals happened with Warren, I'm thinking that Obama has more than political calculation in mind. Perhaps he really does want to extend goodwill to those who have opposed him. And the irony is pretty amazing...We christians call it grace.

"The best way to get rid of an enemy is to make him your friend"--Abraham Lincoln

In any case, I've become increasingly impressed with Obama since the election. I just hope he's as decent a president as he is a person.

Happy Christmas, holidays, whatever to everyone out there!

Mackinac
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Old 12-25-2008, 06:28 AM
 
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Robertson gives Bush a C-. Talk about grade inflation!
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Old 12-25-2008, 07:30 AM
 
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Wow, delu. Talk about being between a rock and a hard place. You see, what these guys didn't realize is that when you align yourself with a party, you paint yourself into a corner and lose your own credibility. Personally, my respect for Dobson would go way up if he did accept the invitation--I might not think he's a Republican with a cross. And I say this as a guy who listens to FOTF fairly regularly.

But because this olive branch thing with evangelicals happened with Warren, I'm thinking that Obama has more than political calculation in mind. Perhaps he really does want to extend goodwill to those who have opposed him. And the irony is pretty amazing...We christians call it grace.

"The best way to get rid of an enemy is to make him your friend"--Abraham Lincoln

In any case, I've become increasingly impressed with Obama since the election. I just hope he's as decent a president as he is a person.

Happy Christmas, holidays, whatever to everyone out there!

Mackinac
Great sweet Christmasy post!
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Old 12-25-2008, 07:38 AM
 
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Well let's all jump up and down the great Pat Robertson has spoken. Like I would take stock in anything that man says. If I was Obama I would make clear that I didn't ask for his approval. I wouldn't want my name in any sentence as his.
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