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Old 12-27-2008, 12:49 AM
 
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With Obama's cabinet appointments, the announcement of Rev. Warren for the inauguration, and many of the policies suggested by the President-elect, millions of citizens are feeling deceived.

Where is the flaming liberal ideologue they were told to expect? Where is the radical Muslim?

Moderate Independents and Republicans, along with a few conservatives are gaping in astonishment as Obama demonstrates that his rhetoric was not just empty words, but words he will lead by.

"He deceived us," declared one Mississippi voter. "He ran as a Democrat and he ain't no Democrat I never seen! He's more like a Demoblican or something like that."

Similar comments have been heard all over the country. "He might not be so bad," were the grudging words from this western Pennsylvania town.

"Still, I do want to wait to see what happens after the inauguration," cautioned a Wyoming resident. "But it's a damn sight better than I thought it would be, already. You might almost say I'm hopeful." He paused. "Nah!"
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Old 12-27-2008, 01:11 AM
 
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Where is the flaming liberal ideologue they were told to expect?


Just want to make clear. Nobody on the left told anyone to expect he would be a liberal ideologue and no one on the left is "furious", nor "suprised" that he's a moderate.

Just want to nip the right wing talking point in the bud.

Anybody who said or believed who would be a "liberal ideologue" is a right wing tool.
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Old 12-27-2008, 01:21 AM
 
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I'm a liberal. I'm also the opposite of furious, I'm thrilled at his performance thus far. Far left and right whack-jobs need to sit the eff down and shut the hell up.
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Old 12-27-2008, 02:59 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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There aren't enough far-left liberal ideologues in the country to elect anybody. Obama was elected by moderates and centrists.

Part of the confusion may be location. If you are way over on the right and about to fall off the edge, the Center might look like far left to you.
If you look somewhere to your right, you might see the far left hanging off the other side and close enough to shake hands The two fringes are a lot closer ideologically than either of them would like to think.

America decided they didn't care to be that far over and emphatically adjusted course, electing a pragmatist who has assembled a staff that wuill be ready to perform on January 21. I, for one, got exactly what I voted for, and I am certain that millions of Americans feel the same way, hence Mr. Obama's 82% approval rating.
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Yes
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Remember the whole stink over "95% of African Americans voted Obama"?

Well, is it wrong to say that (in general) most of the African-American community is economically liberal while socially conservative? Outside of his stance on abortion, I believe Obama is the same way. At the very least, he is a social centrist if not a conservative-leaner. Now he is, of course, a liberal-leaner regarding economics ... which constitutes his democratic alliance.

And to be quite honest, that is why my vote was easily casted for Obama. I am white, am a middle of the road guy politically, and consider my beliefs to be economically "leberal" yet socially "centrist". So far, and I hope in the future, Obama is seeming to be my kind of leader. I'm still crossing my fingers and approaching the upcoming years with a cautions optimism though.
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:24 AM
 
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The ultra-conservatives already hated Obama.

I think the ultra-liberals are going to quickly grow to hate him, if it turns out that what he said all along through the campaign was true - and that is that he's not an extremist. On the other hand, their hatred will be tempered by the realization that he's closer to them than was McCain.
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:28 AM
 
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I don't understand what you guys have in your head... but you aren't using it... Whether he has Republican or Democrat values isn't who he elects but the policies HE IMPLEMENTS... his policies are far left... he is bridging on full-blown socialism... to say that he is a centrists without looking at his political policies is short of... lunacy... so yes, he is a far left liberal... centrist? That is something made up by the media so that they can blame Conservatives when his liberal policies fail...
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Yes
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I don't understand what you guys have in your head... but you aren't using it... Whether he has Republican or Democrat values isn't who he elects but the policies HE IMPLEMENTS... his policies are far left... he is bridging on full-blown socialism... to say that he is a centrists without looking at his political policies is short of... lunacy... so yes, he is a far left liberal... centrist? That is something made up by the media so that they can blame Conservatives when his liberal policies fail...
In my post, I stated that he is economically liberal (or what you call socialist) while being a social centrist. But maybe you didn't read my post? And yes, being a social centrist is still somewhat being a centrist. You know how this country values it's social issues - sometimes even more than its fiscal issues - on both sides of the common man aisle. You and I will disagree on whether Obama's economic beliefs will be good for this coutry or not (I happen to agree with aspects of redistribution), but I think both of us can at least recognize that he teeter-totters on social issues. And to me, teeter-tottering on social issues is a great thing, as neither the far-left or the far-right is in the best interests of our country.
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Old 12-27-2008, 12:18 PM
 
Location: The Land of Lincoln
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I am surprised that he actually has an opinion on something and hasn't made a 360 when criticized as is his usual MO.
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Old 12-27-2008, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Give the man a fair chance. The same chance any of us would want when starting a new job. I didn't vote for the man but he is my President all the same. I will support him until he proves himself unworthy of that support.
I don't agree with all of his cab. selections. But then again he could have done far worse. Like choosing a Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton for example.
Lets see what happens before we condemn the man.
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