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Old 01-19-2009, 09:14 AM
Location: Idaho Falls
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Originally Posted by SuperIncumbent View Post
Seems like old white men are too outmoded for liberals
In general, that's true. But there are some old white men who haven't gotten all McCain-like. They're great!
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Old 01-19-2009, 09:21 AM
Location: Central Illinois -
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Originally Posted by zz4guy View Post
Is there anyone out there on the radar yet? Wake me up in 2011. Unless we have another GWB, Huckabee or McCain, in which case please just shoot me.

Bobby Jindal will be the GOP candidate in 2012.The only reason he would not be their choice (the southern white male party needs an "extreme makeover" and who better than someone of color?) is because he would view it as a losing struggle and would not want to jeopardize future chances after Obama's 8 years is over
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Old 01-19-2009, 11:53 AM
Location: Triangle, North Carolina
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Hard to tell since there hasn't been a true Republican candidate since 1984.
One could and can hardly call the following True Republicans:


If you study true Republicanism none of the above would qualify. They are just RINO's. Also, Bush Jr., made sure he destroyed the GOP for many years to come. If you review his record it will match that of Lyndon Johnson a proud Democrat
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Old 01-19-2009, 12:52 PM
Location: Democratic Peoples Republic of Redneckistan
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Originally Posted by JamesAbilene View Post
I hope you are correct and that the USA does not exist in its current form by 2012. I hope our economy is better. I hope that we are no longer involved in two wars. I hope that we quit violating the Constitution--you know--little things--like illegal wiretapping. I hope we are well on our way to controlling the deficit and maybe, just maybe, seeing an eventual surplus; that won't happen by 2012, but we might be on our way. I hope we have gained the respect of our allies which has been lost in the last 8 years. I hope we are no longer pandering to the wealthy and giving welfare to corporations and their overpaid CEO's. I hope we are using tax credits and other means to encourage viable corporations to keep their facilities, jobs, and manufacturing plants in America. I hope that the poor and middle class American doesn't have to choose between food and prescription drugs. I hope we have revisited NCLB and cleaned it up so that our kids can learn higher level thinking skills instead of learning only how to take a multiple choice test. I hope our infrastructure, which has been neglected too long, is improved. I hope our politicians are talking about issues that matter and that they can make a difference with and stay out of people's bedrooms and decisions about health care (i.e. Terry Schiavo). I hope more students with good minds and little money have the opportunity to attend college. I hope the Social Security mess is cleaned up or changed. I hope that we are no longer violating international law (torture, waterboarding). I hope we again care about cleaning up the environment. I hope we have developed alternative energy policies that will reduce our dependence on foreign oil. I hope oil companies, Halliburton, and the vice-president are not making our energy policy. I hope we again look at proven scientific data when making decisions about human health care and the environment. Yes, I hope the United States is a quite different place in 2012--a place that cares about all of its citizens ,their welfare, and our Constitution.

End of rant. I know you have talking points to counter all of this. I have heard them all. And, I respectfullly disagree with them.
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Old 05-14-2009, 01:33 PM
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bush tax cuts during war and surplus, too republican for me even his dad and Reagan (who was at one time a democrat) new better
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