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Old 01-28-2009, 04:13 PM
 
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What a joke for the umpteenth time...it was ACORN's WORKERS which makes ACORN responsible. Some of the workers even admitted how they were coached to do this.
So wouldnt it be rather self-defeating of ACORN to coach their own workers to copy names from the phone book, etc.? ACORN supervisors comb through the registrations and flag those that are questionable before sending them on to the SoS. Your claim makes no sense.

As for them being coached - links please.
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Old 01-28-2009, 04:21 PM
 
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Laughing! You think that is back pedaling? You wacky lefty you. People/employee's make up organization's. These people define how good or in ACORNS case bad they are.

Not even a good try.....
Those registration fraud people were part time workers hired on for the election crush. In other words, kids and unemployed people putting in time for peanuts. Not all but certainly some or even most.

At the end of every day ACORN supervisors read through the submitted forms and flagged the suspicious or obviously fraudulent ones before sending them to the Secretary of Sate's office. ACORN MGMT THEMSELVES called attention to the fraudulent registrations, and disciplined or fired the people responsible.

In the big picture, fraudulent voter registrations only hurt ACORN's reputation. They didnt affect voting un ti. Yet it's part of many folks's canon that ACORN led the way in tipping the election for Obama (also that he worked for them)

So as much as you may want to believe that's NOT the whole story, I advise you to find some credible sources and check it out for yourself before committing to some wild claim that you'd like to be true.
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Old 01-28-2009, 04:41 PM
 
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So as long as ACORN is only some what corrupt then it would be okay with you if they still receive tax payers money.

Under the current bill, as in the way it is written there is no reason at all to think that ACORN won't receive some funding. How much remains to be seen. I'm not interested in what good they do. Fraud is fraud and I don't freely give my money to fraud's.
i cant tell , there has been quite a few frauds that your likely to support politically.
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:45 PM
 
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Newsmax.com - Obama’s Bill Hands ACORN $5.2 Billion Bailout (http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_bailout_bill/2009/01/27/175729.html?s=al&promo_code=78E4-1 - broken link)

ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE!!!! A bailout for ACORN. Remember ACORN, who were fraudently turning in voter info with names that don't exist and harrassing people to encourage them to keep signing their voting petitions....had this been any other organization, wonder would they still be in business?

So now wondering just what all the supporters of Obama think about this. Hmm,,,,,,,do I detect some favortism here from O's former ties with ACORN? Smile, this is only the beginning.
How many from ACORN were ever charged with voter fraud? Was the reality or just another case of Republican misinformation. Can you link the arrest stories.
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Old 01-28-2009, 07:50 PM
 
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Newsmax.com - Obama’s Bill Hands ACORN $5.2 Billion Bailout (http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_bailout_bill/2009/01/27/175729.html?s=al&promo_code=78E4-1 - broken link)

ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE!!!! A bailout for ACORN. Remember ACORN, who were fraudently turning in voter info with names that don't exist and harrassing people to encourage them to keep signing their voting petitions....had this been any other organization, wonder would they still be in business?

So now wondering just what all the supporters of Obama think about this. Hmm,,,,,,,do I detect some favortism here from O's former ties with ACORN? Smile, this is only the beginning.
To the victor goes the spoil. Seems like Acorn, Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farekahn all picked the winning side to be on. Well at least they were assigned to the winning side. I guess they are the ones with a valid to cheer their day.
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Old 01-28-2009, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Florida
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For the umpteenth time.

The registration fraud ( not voting fraud) was committed against ACORN.

ACORN turned the culprits in after finding the falsified registration cards.

Nothing criminal or unethical was don on ACORN's part.
Uhhh.... ACORN was responsible for some of that fraud. Innocently, I trusted them and registered with them and received a nasty letter from the Commissioner of Elections informing me that my application was suspect and was under investigation for fraud. Eventually, they went after ACORN instead of me......... but I wasn't allowed to vote in the election because of them. I know many other students at my school that had a similar problem......
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Old 01-28-2009, 09:38 PM
 
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Shovel Ready BS

Limbaugh's claim that pursuant to the economic recovery plan, $4.19 billion "is going to ACORN" is false. The false claim is based on a misrepresentation of a provision that would appropriate $4,190,000,000 "for neighborhood stabilization activities related to emergency assistance for the redevelopment of abandoned and foreclosed homes as authorized under division B, title III of the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008." The provision requires that money to be distributed through competitive processes.

folkbum's rambles and rants
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Old 01-28-2009, 10:42 PM
 
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What the bill actually says, without media spin:

community development fund
  • For an additional amount for `Community Development Fund' $1,000,000,000, to carry out the community development block grant program under title I of the Housing and Community Development Act of 1974 (42 U.S.C. 5301 et seq.): Provided, That the amount appropriated in this paragraph shall be distributed according to the same funding formula used in fiscal year 2008: Provided further, That in allocating the funds appropriated in this paragraph, the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development shall not require an additional action plan from grantees: Provided further, That in selecting projects to be funded, recipients shall give priority to projects that can award contracts based on bids within 120 days from the date the funds are made available to the recipients; Provided further, That in administering funds provided in this paragraph, the Secretary may waive any provision of any statute or regulation that the Secretary administers in connection with the obligation by the Secretary or the use by the recipient of these funds (except for requirements related to fair housing, nondiscrimination, labor standards, and the environment), upon a finding that such waiver is required to facilitate the timely use of such funds and would not be inconsistent with the overall purpose of the statute.
    • For a further additional amount for `Community Development Fund', $4,190,000,000, to be used for neighborhood stabilization activities related to emergency assistance for the redevelopment of abandoned and foreclosed homes as authorized under division B, title III of the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 (Public Law 110-289),
    • <snip>
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Old 01-29-2009, 04:47 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Default Stimulating ACORN

$4.19 billion for "neighborhood stabilization activities."

So, now we're going to give ACORN some stimulus money? What are we stimulating --- voter registration fraud?

This is totally ridiculous.
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Old 01-29-2009, 05:05 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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Did you read that part of the bill?

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  • For a further additional amount for `Community Development Fund', $4,190,000,000, to be used for neighborhood stabilization activities related to emergency assistance for the redevelopment of abandoned and foreclosed homes as authorized under division B, title III of the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 (Public Law 110-289), of which--
    • (1) not less than $3,440,000,000 shall be allocated by a competition for which eligible entities shall be States, units of general local government, and nonprofit entities or consortia of nonprofit entities: Provided, That the award criteria for such competition shall include grantee capacity, leveraging potential, targeted impact of foreclosure prevention, and any additional factors determined by the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Provided further, that the Secretary may establish a minimum grant size: Provided further, That amounts made available under this Section may be used to (A) establish financing mechanisms for purchase and redevelopment of foreclosed-upon homes and residential properties, including such mechanisms as soft-seconds, loan loss reserves, and shared-equity loans for low- and moderate-income homebuyers; (B) purchase and rehabilitate homes and residential properties that have been abandoned or foreclosed upon, in order to sell or rent such homes and properties; (C) establish and operate land banks for homes that have been foreclosed upon; (D) demolish foreclosed properties that have become blighted structures; and (E) redevelop demolished or vacant foreclosed properties in order to sell or rent such properties; and
    • (2) up to $750,000,000 shall be awarded by competition to nonprofit entities or consortia of nonprofit entities to provide community stabilization assistance by (A) accelerating state and local government and nonprofit productivity; (B) increasing the scale and efficiency of property transfers of foreclosed and vacant residential properties from financial institutions and government entities to qualified local housing providers in order to return the properties to productive affordable housing use; (C) building industry and property management capacity; and (D) partnering with private sector real estate developers and contractors and leveraging private sector capital: Provided further, That such community stabilization assistance shall be provided primarily in States and areas with high rates of defaults and foreclosures to support the acquisition, rehabilitation and property management of single-family and multi-family homes and to work in partnership with the private sector real estate industry and to leverage available private and public funds for those purposes: Provided further, That for purposes of this paragraph qualified local housing providers shall be nonprofit organizations with demonstrated capabilities in real estate development or acquisition and rehabilitation or property management of single- or multi-family homes, or local or state governments or instrumentalities of such governments: Provided further, That qualified local housing providers shall be expected to utilize and leverage additional local nonprofit, governmental, for-profit and private resources:
THOMAS - Library of Congress
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