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Old 02-06-2009, 10:47 AM
 
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This is OUTRAGEOUS! Are they F**K**G KIDDING!!!!!


***sorry if there is already a thread about this...



Dems Blast 'Corporate Excess' While Soaking Taxpayers for Luxury Retreat:

WASHINGTON -- When corporate titans indulged in perks like private jets and luxury junkets, members of Congress were quick to criticize. But that hasn't stopped lawmakers from heading for party retreats at resorts where they spend tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars and mingle with lobbyists.

"We're very mindful" of perceptions, House Democratic Caucus Chairman John Larson told reporters Thursday camped outside of the sprawling Kingsmill Resort & Spa in Williamsburg, Va., where House Democrats were on their annual three-day retreat, an event which has in the past cost in the neighborhood of $100,000.
"It's serious and it's from morning till night. We've been dwelling, rightfully, on the economy," said Larson, D-Conn.

The round-trip fare on Amtrak is $90 or more. Catered dinners at Kingsmill cost at least $60 per person. Kingsmill's rooms at this time of year start at $119 a night. Democrats will not disclose the exact costs of this year's retreat, though group discounts for travel, food and lodging are common.

INSIDE WASHINGTON: Congress has perks of its own - Politics AP - MiamiHerald.com (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/890179.html - broken link)



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As the Associated Press notes in a story on GOPUSA, "Members of Congress were quick to shame corporate executives for over-the-top extravagance during the economic crisis, flying private jets and taking luxury junkets. But some lawmakers are strolling fancy resorts spending tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars."

This weekend, Democrat House members are meeting at the Kingsmill Resort and Spa in Williamsburg, VA.

"Democrats spend taxpayer money on their retreat but do not permit lobbyists to accompany them. The public pays for a charter train from Washington to Williamsburg for many of the 200 members who attend, as well as conference rooms, security and catering."

Note that last month the Republicans attended a similar retreat, but NO taxpayer money was used.

"Lawmakers pay for their own transportation and room costs, roughly $190 per night, including food, according to one Republican who attended but spoke on condition of anonymity because details of the trip were not made public.


GOPUSA - The Loft (http://www.gopusa.com/theloft/?p=867 - broken link)

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Old 02-06-2009, 11:01 AM
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Um...it says taxpayers paid for "a charter train from Washington to Williamsburg [$90] for many of the 200 members who attend, as well as conference rooms, security and catering."

"Lawmakers pay their own expenses at the House retreats, including room rental, and may use their campaign re-election funds."

And - the Republicans paying out of pocket for their retreat? Lol!
But Republicans allow special guests to join them: lobbyists who are part of the Congressional Institute, a nonprofit organization that arranges events for both political parties. They pay $25,000 to join the institute, which allows them to attend the first night's dinner at the Republican retreat as well as other events throughout the year.

More than 300 people attended the dinner, including 136 Republican House lawmakers and 45 others - mostly lobbyists - from the institute's private sector advisory committee, said the group's president, Mark Strand. The institute also pays the costs of some congressional staffers who attend.
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:20 AM
 
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Heck we paid 68 thousand for Obama to travel 100 miles to attend that
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:28 AM
 
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Um...it says taxpayers paid for "a charter train from Washington to Williamsburg [$90] for many of the 200 members who attend, as well as conference rooms, security and catering."

"Lawmakers pay their own expenses at the House retreats, including room rental, and may use their campaign re-election funds."

And - the Republicans paying out of pocket for their retreat? Lol!
But Republicans allow special guests to join them: lobbyists who are part of the Congressional Institute, a nonprofit organization that arranges events for both political parties. They pay $25,000 to join the institute, which allows them to attend the first night's dinner at the Republican retreat as well as other events throughout the year.

More than 300 people attended the dinner, including 136 Republican House lawmakers and 45 others - mostly lobbyists - from the institute's private sector advisory committee, said the group's president, Mark Strand. The institute also pays the costs of some congressional staffers who attend.
Over the years we have paid democrats to attend this spa costing us taxpayers 500k
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:30 AM
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Over the years we have paid democrats to attend this spa costing us taxpayers 500k
Link?
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:35 AM
 
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Link?
democrats cost taxpayers 500k for retreat - Google Search

Pick which link you perfer
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Old 02-06-2009, 11:37 AM
 
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Link?
Here is another link

Are Your Taxes Paying For Democratic Retreat? | NBC4i.com
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:01 PM
 
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Heck we paid 68 thousand for Obama to travel 100 miles to attend that
Read through your first four links, still can't find this....
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:05 PM
 
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Read through your first four links, still can't find this....
From the last link
The Congressional Democrats are meeting at the Kingsmill Resort and Spa, where members will pay between $119 and $400 each night for their rooms. But taxpayers pick up the rest of the cost.

Taxpayer dollars are being spent for transportation—a chartered Amtrak train—and security to protect members of Congress, as well as facility and speaker fees.

When Preston asked the spokesperson for the Democratic Caucus for the total taxpayer expense, he was told that no one had that answer.

Democratic Caucus spokeswoman Emily Barocas said they don’t have to report the costs until April, but The Hill newspaper in Washington reported that previous Democratic retreats have cost taxpayers more than $500,000 over the past five years.

She also defended using taxpayer money by saying, “Republicans use lobbyists to fund their retreats. We feel that’s unethical. We split the costs.“

House Republican Leader John Boehner’s spokesperson, Jessica Towhey said, “House Republicans comply with congressional ethics rules for our retreat, which is open to media coverage and is not paid for with taxpayers dollars.”
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:07 PM
 
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From the last link
The Congressional Democrats are meeting at the Kingsmill Resort and Spa, where members will pay between $119 and $400 each night for their rooms. But taxpayers pick up the rest of the cost.

Taxpayer dollars are being spent for transportation—a chartered Amtrak train—and security to protect members of Congress, as well as facility and speaker fees.

When Preston asked the spokesperson for the Democratic Caucus for the total taxpayer expense, he was told that no one had that answer.

Democratic Caucus spokeswoman Emily Barocas said they don’t have to report the costs until April, but The Hill newspaper in Washington reported that previous Democratic retreats have cost taxpayers more than $500,000 over the past five years.

She also defended using taxpayer money by saying, “Republicans use lobbyists to fund their retreats. We feel that’s unethical. We split the costs.“

House Republican Leader John Boehner’s spokesperson, Jessica Towhey said, “House Republicans comply with congressional ethics rules for our retreat, which is open to media coverage and is not paid for with taxpayers dollars.”

And you said $68000 for Obama to travel 100 miles...still looking.....
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