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Old 02-20-2009, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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Your grandchildren will be paying for the Iraq war,too. They will be paying for all Halliburton's profits. They will be paying for the Wall Street Welfare Queens bailout.....


NOW you notice! NOW you care???? NOW when Obama is trying to create jobs so we CAN pay for all those things???

You really think the economy will turn itself around? Jobs will appear by magic ??
Obama couldn't create a pimple on his nose..He is lost, and taking us all down with him.. You people got suckered, admit it, he is a Loser...!
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Old 02-20-2009, 08:52 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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Obama couldn't create a pimple on his nose..He is lost, and taking us all down with him.. You people got suckered, admit it, he is a Loser...!
Of course! He's a total loser! It's so obvious now that you've put it in such clear language!

I wonder why 65% of the population can't recognize it? When all the evidence is so plain to you. You see it so clearly - what's wrong with everybody else? Actually, it's more than 65% once you take out the 30% of insane wingnuts that still think Bush was worth more than a turd. You can't include them in the reality-based world.

So 90% of the sane people think Obama's doing great. None of them can see the obvious fact that Obama is a complete failure and we're all going down with him.

Or maybe you're deluded.
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Old 02-21-2009, 06:53 AM
 
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Again, once I see "socialist" in a post I lose what little respect I had for the poster. You obviously don't know what socialism is, don't know what Obama's policies are, haven't studied a real socialistic society, and most likely watch Fox News religiously to spew that kind of nonsense.

You don't have a mom or dad?

Anyways of course everyone on the internet claims to be successful by their own doing because no one can ever prove you wrong. But the fact remains, most people on welfare need it as they were laid off or their company closed down. If you actually knew how unemployment worked, its impossible to just quit your job and sit around doing nothing and get money for it.

There are people that weren't born with the advantages you were, and had to work since they can remember. When they are living paycheck to paycheck, and then their business goes down, do you just expect those people to be brushed aside? No we in America try to help those that need it, well at least the people who voted for Obama do. I guess you conservatives can just sit up there on your high horses looking down at all of the little people and judging them without knowing a damn thing.
I worked my way through college--and I really worked. I was working midnight shift in a factory which lost a contract due to the de-escalation of the Vietnam war. The midnight shift was closed down. Even though I was offered a job on the day shift, I could not take it because I was in college and it was just a few weeks until the end of the semester. So, I applied for unemployment. My plan was to coast by a few weeks until the end of the semester and enjoy not having to push myself so hard. I don't know about now, but the Texas Employment Commission had me at least a dozen jobs to interview before the end of the week, and I was only off work a couple of days and drew no unemployment benefits. I think most people would prefer this scenario. However, there are not so many jobs out there right now. We do need to help people who cannot find work after losing jobs they have had for a lifetime. Ideally, the help would be a new job. Failing that, unemployment benefits make sense.
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Old 02-21-2009, 08:58 AM
 
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Of course! He's a total loser! It's so obvious now that you've put it in such clear language!

I wonder why 65% of the population can't recognize it? When all the evidence is so plain to you. You see it so clearly - what's wrong with everybody else? Actually, it's more than 65% once you take out the 30% of insane wingnuts that still think Bush was worth more than a turd. You can't include them in the reality-based world.

So 90% of the sane people think Obama's doing great. None of them can see the obvious fact that Obama is a complete failure and we're all going down with him.

Or maybe you're deluded.


Obama's NOT doing well. He shoved a pork laden welfare spending bill down our throats and called it a 'stimulus.' NOONE in Congress read the bill before voting in its favor and Obama himself could not have read it before signing it. The final version was ready on Monday around 12:30 pm and he signed it Tuesday at 2:40 pm (in Denver). He did not put the bill online 5 days before its being signed as promised. He was not bipartisan at all. When the GOP put pressure to incorporate some of its ideas, all he could do is say 'I won.'

He has committed more than $ 2 Trillion in one month! He had to backtrack numerous times on having no lobbyists in his Admin; he has made our anti-terror measures weaker; many of his cabinet appointees have dropped out. He's doing VERY poorly but many people are so in-the-tank they can not admit any of his faults.
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Old 02-21-2009, 09:17 AM
 
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many people are so in-the-tank they can not admit any of his faults.
Oh, spare me!

I didn't come to CD yesterday! The same rabid folks who were out of the tank before the election are the same rabid critics now. The arguments are the same as are those who make them.

Surprise, surprise.

And, just like before the election the topic changed by the hour but the motivation then and the motivation now is the same. You said noBama then and that's all this is about now. The only problem is that no is all you are about.

No logic, no honesty, no intellectual integrity but more importantly, NO PLAN, except to say no, no, no, no, no, and more no.
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Old 02-21-2009, 09:26 AM
 
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Obama's doing everything I wanted him to when I voted him in, I don't see how that can be considered doing badly. You have to remember the more things that he does that republicans don't like, the better Obama is doing.
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Old 02-21-2009, 09:29 AM
 
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You have to remember the more things that he does that republicans don't like, the better Obama is doing.
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Old 02-21-2009, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Obama's doing everything I wanted him to when I voted him in, I don't see how that can be considered doing badly. You have to remember the more things that he does that republicans don't like, the better Obama is doing.
You wanted Guantanamo kept open, secret wire-tapping maintained, and the war in Afganistan escalated with no strategic plan or goal and no idea of how long our troops will have to be there, fighting the Taliban? Or al-Qaeda? Or whomever? Or being careful not to upset the Pakistanis, whose territory is being used by the bad guys as a safe haven? Kind of like the NVA in Cambodia?

I don't see how anybody, Republican or Democrat, can "like" any of this...

The Obama administration is showing every sign of being just as incompetent as the late and unlamented Mr. Bush's.
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Old 02-21-2009, 09:41 AM
 
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You wanted Guantanamo kept open, secret wire-tapping maintained, and the war in Afganistan escalated with no strategic plan or goal and no idea of how long our troops will have to be there, fighting the Taliban? Or al-Qaeda? Or whomever? Or being careful not to upset the Pakistanis, whose territory is being used by the bad guys as a safe haven? Kind of like the NVA in Cambodia?

I don't see how anybody, Republican or Democrat, can "like" any of this...

The Obama administration is showing every sign of being just as incompetent as the late and unlamented Mr. Bush's.
So you talk about gitmo and wire taps, which he hasn't been able to deal with yet, and escalating the war in Afghanistan, which he hasn't been able to accomplish yet in the same breath. Another double standard by a conservative, this is getting old.

Were closing gitmo man, obviously. We'll see how the wiretap controversy plays out after Obamas been president for more than a month, I don't know if you realized it but hes been a little busy trying to clean up the Bush economic crisis. And yeah I do want an increase in troops in Afghanistan, all of you conservatives have been jaded by the pointless and unwinnable Iraqi war, there are actual entities in Afghanistan that we are fighting, real bad guys that attacked us on 9/11.


The point is, you only talked about a bunch of stuff Obama HASN'T done, while I'm saying everything he HAS done is exactly what I wanted him to do. Hes not gonna fix the world in 30 days bro. We'll see in 8 years tho
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Old 02-21-2009, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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So you talk about gitmo and wire taps, which he hasn't been able to deal with yet, and escalating the war in Afghanistan, which he hasn't been able to accomplish yet in the same breath. Another double standard by a conservative, this is getting old.
As I recall, the biggest cheers during the campaign were elicited by Mr. Obama's promises to leave Gitmo AND Iraq posthaste. Now that he's faced with the chill of reality, his criticisms of Bush seem to have been based on equal parts ignorance and opportunism. Speaking of getting old....

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Were closing gitmo man, obviously. We'll see how the wiretap controversy plays out after Obamas been president for more than a month, I don't know if you realized it but hes been a little busy trying to clean up the Bush economic crisis. And yeah I do want an increase in troops in Afghanistan, all of you conservatives have been jaded by the pointless and unwinnable Iraqi war, there are actual entities in Afghanistan that we are fighting, real bad guys that attacked us on 9/11.
Silliness. 1. It's not Bush's economic mess, unless he personally got a hammerlock on every dufus who signed up for an ARM. 2. Remember what happened to the USSR in Afghanistan? What's the long-range goal? "Nation building"? Don't make me laugh. 3. The guys who attacked us on 9/11 are all dead.


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The point is, you only talked about a bunch of stuff Obama HASN'T done, while I'm saying everything he HAS done is exactly what I wanted him to do. Hes not gonna fix the world in 30 days bro. We'll see in 8 years tho
I talked about stuff Obama promised to do and so far has not. That's called reneging on one's promises. And do you REALLY want us deeper and deeper into Afghanistan with no goal or exit strategy? If we're still there in eight years, the body count will make Iraq look like a picnic.
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