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Old 02-17-2009, 09:36 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Obviously if you don't have a problem with $3 trillion added in just a few weeks, you shouldn't have a problem with Bush's leaving a debt.
exactly. The dem plan pushes the debt figure through the roof. Party on while future generations pay the bill. Real leadership. . . not.
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Houston Texas
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You want to talk about bankrupting grandchildren, ask your buddy George Bush about it...thanks to him, the national debt is now 10.7 trillion.
And your buddy Obama. Almost a trillion on a stimulus that most Americans disagree with? How about sending more troops over to Afganistan? That should increase the debt even more. Change? What is that?
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Houston Texas
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You know regarding that issue the silence has been deafening.

No alternate plan other than allowing the "market to self correct." And not a single peep as to what such a self corrected economy would look like. No projections, no best guesses, nothing.


Maybe because the right had so little time to even read the thing?
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:10 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Obviously if you don't have a problem with $3 trillion added in just a few weeks, you shouldn't have a problem with Bush's leaving a debt.
total lack of understanding how much its gonna cost to leave Bushs mess. The less we throw at it now the more its gonna cost us in both money and suffering in the end.
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:37 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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total lack of understanding how much its gonna cost to leave Bushs mess. The less we throw at it now the more its gonna cost us in both money and suffering in the end.
Well since NO ONE knows if this spendulus bill will even help it is a bit naive to state what you have in the quoted post.
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:31 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Well since NO ONE knows if this spendulus bill will even help it is a bit naive to state what you have in the quoted post.
So your side is claiming ignorance for not being able to create a realistic aternative. Let me clarify myself, the stimulus needs to be bigger, broader,and quicker. Like it or not that is the only way of avoiding a long drawn out recession. It will only end up costing more money by not spending it now. I believe if we spend it now we can completely turn it around but I think the stimulus needs to be 1.5 trillion at todays cost. The fact is we are not willing to accept the price so we are doomed to repeat the past, a longer more expensive recesion.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Obviously if you don't have a problem with $3 trillion added in just a few weeks, you shouldn't have a problem with Bush's leaving a debt.
Remember, it was "Carter's Fault" two years down the road, this housing mess is Clinton's fault, the Afghanistan/Iraq mess will be Obama's...

The problem I have with Bush is not that he spent trillions, he spent it carelessly. Or, may be, the idea of spending is bad and you don't differentiate between one that benefits versus one that hurts?
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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Whasamatta, Upton, can't you deal with the present, like from this day forward rather than backward? Can't change the past, you know. Don't you?
We can't begin to move forward until we clean up the mess that Bush left us in. While it would be pleasant to forget the trillion $$$ deficit and wrecked economy, it's impossible to do so. We can't get to even ground, much less the top of the mountain, til we've dug ourselves out of the deep, deep hole Bush dumped threw us into.
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Old 02-18-2009, 11:16 AM
 
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You want to talk about bankrupting grandchildren, ask your buddy George Bush about it...thanks to him, the national debt is now 10.7 trillion.
Obamas spending is going to make Bushs look tiny
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Old 02-18-2009, 12:16 PM
 
Location: DFW Texas
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Obamas spending is going to make Bushs look tiny
Yep.....almost 1 trillion in the first month alone. I hate to see what else he will add to it. I really hope people come to their senses and vote out ANY liberal spending congress man regardless of party in 2010.
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