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1) Bush's actions WORKED in Iraq. That country changed from a hostile country bent on our destruction to a peaceful Democratic ally.
2) Germany and Japan offered successful precedents for Bush to follow.
Now your turn. Name ONE instance in which massive government spending ever cured an economic downturn. Answer: There is none. Obama is doing something that has never worked.
Name one time when tax-cuts have ever delivered said promise? I can't wait for this debate!
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1) Yes, he is trying and you have explained nothing.
2) You over-simplify which is all too convenient.
3) "Might" is the keyword but they didn't and so here we are.
Basically, in addition to what I previously posted, now you are saying the Republicans tried but they couldn't because the big, bad Democrats wouldn't let them and the Republicans had something to say but no one was listening or cared to listen. The way you say it, the Republicans appear really lame...
1) Obama's trying because you say he is? That doesn't cut it. Let's see some logic. I listed reasons why he wasn't. You can't refute any of them.
2) I stated it the way the WSJ stated it. It's simple enough to understand.
3) Nice job, using half the quote. But yeah, the MSM did a hatchet job on the GOP and didn't lay a glove on the manchild.
Last edited by Reads2MUCH; 03-04-2009 at 09:25 AM..
Reason: edited for flaming
Oh yes. TIME. Now there is an unbaised source. We must remember that CNN, TIME's media affiliate also posted a list of culprits. it took all the way to #9 until they could even find it within their ability to name a Democrat responsible, one Franklin Raines, who got over $100 million from Fannie Mae.
I prefer the four-year-long series from the WSJ which chronicled near-exclusive Democrat culpability in real time.
Typical Hannity/Coulter/Limbaugh mentality you've got going there: Any news story that doesn't blame Democrats for everything is due to "liberal media bias".
One month in, I think its obvious to every cogent American that the election of this guy was a disastrous mistake. In this short amount of time, Obama and his Democrat accomplices in Congress have passed the largest most destructive socialist spending bill in American history, with more huge spending bills promised to follow.
This disaster ascended to the presidency only because of a startling alignment of events. First, two fine conservatives, Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee, both of whose character and achievements dwarf the incompetent manchild, split the conservative vote and knocked each other out of the primaries. The one left standing, John McCain, was supported by only a minority of Republican voters because of his "moderate" positions. So the GOP offered a damaged candidate who, as such, was still far more experienced and competent than Obama. The deciding blow was the mainstream media's decision to allow Obama to go fully uninvestigated for his radical associations and lack of achievements of any kind. Rather, the media targeted the vice presidential candidate who was actually far more qualified for the presidency than Obama, even though she was running for the second job.
We are now in the fourth month of the Obama Economic Depression which began on Election Day. The stock market, as we know, is a barometer of its view of the future. And when Obama was elected, the DOW revealed its feelings by tumbling 300 points. Today, the DOW is at it's lowest point in years.
This socialist marionette is disregarding all the past proven remedies to economic downturns (cutting of taxes for job creators, cutting of government spending), methods which have worked 3 out of 3 times the past 30 years in bringing a faltering economy back. Instead, Obama has chosen the big-government-punish-the-achievers tack which not only failed in the 1930s by creating and prolonging the Great Depression, but which has failed EVERY TIME in the history of the world it has been tried.
Why would someone ignore what has worked and implemented what has always failed? The answer can only be he has NO interest in helping the economy. The intention of this boondoggle bill is nothing other than reward his political cronies, buying votes of the non contributors, and attempting to cement power for the Democrats for years to come.
Obama needs to resign or be impeached. NOW. Our country has realized we made a terrible mistake. As painful as it would be, it's time to undo this disastrous blunder. This man has not only proven he is more than happy to advance his party and career at the expense of the country's welfare. The only other explanation is that he is grossly ignorant of economics and completely incompetent in seeking sound advice. If this is the case, he should just quietly bow out, and admit he's not nearly up to the job. Then American can move on.
And I would suggest, since the Democrats have completely shared in this malfeasance, a REDO of the fall election rather than allow the office to fall for the vice president. Let the Republicans recast their nominee to run against Biden or Hillary or whoever. I don't care how much a redo would cost; it would be far cheaper than the path we are currently taking. I think Americans would happily gobble up an unprecedented opportunity to undo their grave mistake. Again, I think I speak for most Americans when I say we'd love to let Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney do what they've proven they can do: manage and improve an economy.
If you think Sarah Palin should be put in charge of the economy,you need your head screwed on straight.She can't even get her makeup right, and you think Obama is a mistake and should already resign? Unfortunately absent minded fools such as your self voted in George W and we saw how great a job he did.He decimated a country,got us into a war because he was sticking up for daddy who didn't like Sadam,spurned relationships with all other countries and killed our trade and what did you conservative fools do....you put him in office again for 4 more years!!!
What we needed was FRESH,LIBERAL blood in office and a president who cares about his country FIRST and thats what we got.Let me guess,you thought Bush was a better president then Clinton? Well if you check the ratings of all presidents that came out recently you'll see Bush's name towards the bottom and to tell you the truth I thought they were way too nice to him.Instead of being a conservative republican that will only vote for more conservative republicans, you need to vote for whose best for the country and this country needed change from the 8 year trip in the toilet.
One month in, I think its obvious to every cogent American that the election of this guy was a disastrous mistake. In this short amount of time, Obama and his Democrat accomplices in Congress have passed the largest most destructive socialist spending bill in American history, with more huge spending bills promised to follow.
This disaster ascended to the presidency only because of a startling alignment of events. First, two fine conservatives, Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee, both of whose character and achievements dwarf the incompetent manchild, split the conservative vote and knocked each other out of the primaries. The one left standing, John McCain, was supported by only a minority of Republican voters because of his "moderate" positions. So the GOP offered a damaged candidate who, as such, was still far more experienced and competent than Obama. The deciding blow was the mainstream media's decision to allow Obama to go fully uninvestigated for his radical associations and lack of achievements of any kind. Rather, the media targeted the vice presidential candidate who was actually far more qualified for the presidency than Obama, even though she was running for the second job.
We are now in the fourth month of the Obama Economic Depression which began on Election Day. The stock market, as we know, is a barometer of its view of the future. And when Obama was elected, the DOW revealed its feelings by tumbling 300 points. Today, the DOW is at it's lowest point in years.
This socialist marionette is disregarding all the past proven remedies to economic downturns (cutting of taxes for job creators, cutting of government spending), methods which have worked 3 out of 3 times the past 30 years in bringing a faltering economy back. Instead, Obama has chosen the big-government-punish-the-achievers tack which not only failed in the 1930s by creating and prolonging the Great Depression, but which has failed EVERY TIME in the history of the world it has been tried.
Why would someone ignore what has worked and implemented what has always failed? The answer can only be he has NO interest in helping the economy. The intention of this boondoggle bill is nothing other than reward his political cronies, buying votes of the non contributors, and attempting to cement power for the Democrats for years to come.
Obama needs to resign or be impeached. NOW. Our country has realized we made a terrible mistake. As painful as it would be, it's time to undo this disastrous blunder. This man has not only proven he is more than happy to advance his party and career at the expense of the country's welfare. The only other explanation is that he is grossly ignorant of economics and completely incompetent in seeking sound advice. If this is the case, he should just quietly bow out, and admit he's not nearly up to the job. Then American can move on.
And I would suggest, since the Democrats have completely shared in this malfeasance, a REDO of the fall election rather than allow the office to fall for the vice president. Let the Republicans recast their nominee to run against Biden or Hillary or whoever. I don't care how much a redo would cost; it would be far cheaper than the path we are currently taking. I think Americans would happily gobble up an unprecedented opportunity to undo their grave mistake. Again, I think I speak for most Americans when I say we'd love to let Sarah Palin or Mitt Romney do what they've proven they can do: manage and improve an economy.
REALLY sounds like MONDAY night foot ball! Let me just say one thing THis is life not a game . And what have they proven ???? that they are a joke ? WE all know that, ya know! Get on with your life just hang on like the rest of us.
Let's not forget lead. Both of them are true leaders with track records for inspiring others to action. When the financial crisis hit in October, Sen McCain did what I would expect a patriot to do. He put politics aside to see to the welfare of the nation. Obama did what I would expect a political opportunists to do. He put his campaign before the nation by saying he would stay on the campaign trail because a president needs to be able to do more than one thing at a time. But what happened next illuminates the character of both men. Sen McCain returned to DC followed immediately by Sen Obama. McCain lead and Obama followed. If you examine Obama's life, you'll find a list of men he followed. Add to that list another leader, Sen McCain. For a POTUS, being a follower is a fatal flaw.
He didn't put his campaign aside,he just didn't want to debate Obama. He was running out of teeth because of all the grinding so they needed a rest.Actually McCain couldn't adequately debate Obama without making faces so this was a crisis at the right time for McCain unfortunately he eventually had to debate him and we know how that went....Ha,HA,HA
1) Obama is not trying to solve any problem. As I explained, when you use a policy that has failed 100% percent of the time and eschew a policy that has worked 100% of the time, then it sounds like your goal is something other than the economy's best interest.
2) In fact, the ENTIRE finanical crisis can be laid at the feet of Democrats. They started the CRA, they empowered them to force banks into making bad loans to unqualified people, they manned Fannie Mae which rewarded banks for making bad loans to unqualified people, and they blocked at every turn in the House and Senate, efforts by Republicans to reform Fannie Mae.
3) McCain/Palin might have made a more forceful case, but their message was not carried and advocated by the mainstream media. Rather, Palin was mugged, a false narrative was created and fostered as the media personally destroyed the GOP campaign while propping up and refusing to investigate Obama.
Do you realize why the McCain/Palin ticket didn't win? Because people associated them with George W,as republicans.Thats why all republican candidates tried to distance theirselves from him. EVERYONE knew he destroyed this country with crazy gas prices,highest unemployment in years,etc,etc,etc. Now if you're own party is trying to disassociate from you; guess what? You are a cancer and no one wants cancer!!!
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