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Old 02-21-2009, 03:12 PM
 
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Diane Sawyer did a TV show about Appalachian poverty recently.

Part of her plan to reduce poverty in this area is to give every child a laptop. She thinks this will elevate mountain folks into a lifestyle that she finds less distasteful.

This is ridiculous.

Sawyer comes down from New York and starts to tell Americans in the Eastern Mountain areas how they should live. Because she knows better than they do ... how to live.

And if she has her way, she will get the Barack Administration involved.

I don't think that New York should be inseminating a mountain culture with their ideals.

These folks are not stupid. And they don't take kindly to someone coming up their driveways unannounced. Let alone the government.

If I lived in the Appalachian Mountains, and Barack tried to come up the hill, I'd tell him to leave right quick.

These folks deserve respect. Their fortitude exempts them from governmental affairs. Opossum stew is very tasty with carrots and onions.

What will Obama do to screw up the last existing American culture?

These people are self sufficient, not like you and I. Maybe we should just leave them alone. I think they like it that way. In their mountain utopia.

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Old 02-21-2009, 03:19 PM
 
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I've lived in Western NC and spent a good bit of time in East TN, far western VA, etc.

On one hand, elements of the Appalachian lifestyle are far from Utopia. You see some pretty asotounding poverty and folks living in squalor here and there. However, folks in that area seem to be fiercely self-reliant. If you want to give help, it shouldn't come in the form of a laptop and should come from local organizations and entities. The people I met in the area were far more likely to accept help if it was from someone they could identify and trust, if begrudgingly.

There are bigger problems in the Appalachian region, too. Mountaintop removal comes to mind.
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Old 02-21-2009, 03:36 PM
 
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My wife grew up in Virginia. I've been in the western portion of that state.

Although there has been some devastation from mining companies, many mountain communities still survive.

And you don't just come a knockin' ... unless they want you to.

Somehow, Obama will creep into their lives. Maybe not ... if Barack is smart.


This might be the last place in America where politics don't matter. Appalachians are staunchly self reliant. Almost like the folks who live in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.
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Old 02-21-2009, 03:44 PM
 
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My wife grew up in Virginia. I've been in the western portion of that state.

Although there has been some devastation from mining companies, many mountain communities still survive.

And you don't just come a knockin' ... unless they want you to.

Somehow, Obama will creep into their lives. Maybe not ... if Barack is smart.


This might be the last place in America where politics don't matter. Appalachians are staunchly self reliant. Almost like the folks who live in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.
Yeah, well it certainly was that way for a long time. It's still that way to a certain extent. What's interesting in the western part of VA is that the coal mining came and went in some of those areas, leaving big scars but no jobs. It was up to politicians to push for government jobs, and now they lobby heavily for the placement of prisons in Western VA (Like the US Pen. in Lee County). At least that's the way it was related to me by folks who live up there.

Again, I'll say that if anyone wants to help in that area, grassroots is the way to go.
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Old 02-21-2009, 03:46 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Probably the wrong people for big brother to start messing with and playing nanny for.
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Old 02-21-2009, 03:51 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Probably the wrong people for big brother to start messing with and playing nanny for.
Read Sen. Jim Webb's book "Born Fighting". I'm also a product of that area and ethnic heritage (Scots-Irish (1700's) mixed with German (1850's) ).

Listen also to Tom Petty's: "I Won't Back Down" :


Tom Petty | I Won’t Back Down lyrics
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Old 02-21-2009, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Why on earth would we want to change Appalachia? The rest of the country needs some comic relief, after all.
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Old 02-21-2009, 03:56 PM
 
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damn, 523 a month on Food stamps? wow. the least they can do is atleast help the children.

the thing that gets me is they want a better life, yet have tattoos up the ying yang and expect to find a job? and I'm talking visible tattoos.

I'd say they should move to another state or go up north, hole up in a Shelter, and build from there.

I guess it's easier said than done, but damn, how can a place like that be ignored?

that place makes a ghetto upnorth look good
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Old 02-21-2009, 03:56 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Why on earth would we want to change Appalachia? The rest of the country needs some comic relief, after all.

Your elitism and arrogance is showing.
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Old 02-21-2009, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Your elitism and arrogance is showing.
I've never attempted to conceal it.
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