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Old 02-25-2009, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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If you choose to live at the base of a volcano, you can pay for programs to warn you to leave before it erupts.

This monitoring and warning activity would cross county and state lines. Please show the board an example of an organization that exists to provide this service.

My guess is that today, on the ground, these activities are performed at the respective state levels, supported by each state's liason to USGS. I also suspect, without researching it, that each state (Oregon, Washington) does spend $$$ to work with USGS to perform this monitoring and have in place some kind of public warning infrastructure.
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Old 02-25-2009, 02:50 PM
 
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Risk-sharing is one of the reasons why human beings bother to form societies at all. Gotta love these people who think it's all just about them...
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Old 02-25-2009, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Libertarianism is a pipe dream. Always has been. Scientists and technocrats actually run the world today, else you step back into the early 1800s, or worse. The engineers work for the technocrats. The lone wolves refuse to deal with it.
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Old 02-25-2009, 02:54 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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LOL...If people don't know that they live near a volcano or what a volcano is perhaps they shouldn't be saved

There seems to be a contradiction in post #70, but that may be because I am stupid On the one hand the organization does exist and on the other it does. Like I said, I am "slow".

Either way, if people who live in an area that will be affected by a potential threat and wish to be warned, those areas with those constituents should be doing the funding not everyone else in the country.
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Old 02-25-2009, 02:56 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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I am glad to hear that you gave up on human freedom Park.
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Old 02-25-2009, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I think the word 'freedom' is like the word 'reality'. It has a private (psychological) aspect and a public aspect. At bottom, its meaning is a function of self-actualization, that is, it's defined by the individual.

Maybe 'freedom' can only be defined in "negative" terms, that is, in terms of limitations on individuals and on the state. Maybe defining 'freedom' in positive descriptive terms is a chimera, like trying to define 'reality'.

In America, the Bill of Rights sets the floor for the public meaning of 'freedom'. A little more of the public meaning of 'freedom' has been invented piecemeal by the courts and legislatures since then.

This is how I would begin to discuss 'freedom' in a more sophisticated manner.

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Old 02-25-2009, 03:04 PM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Risk-sharing is one of the reasons why human beings bother to form societies at all. Gotta love these people who think it's all just about them...
Well, yeah - isn't that the GOP motto?: I GOT MINE! (to h*ll with everyone else).

Of course when the next natural disaster comes and affects THEM they're just like everyone else and will expect the government to help them out.

Ken

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Old 02-25-2009, 03:12 PM
 
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My immediate reaction was that I was watching Obama Light.
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Old 02-25-2009, 03:15 PM
 
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I guess the fact that Chris Wallace is a democrat and comes from a long line of democrats...remember Mike Wallace? stopped this silliness.
exactly!
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Old 02-25-2009, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Jindal is being groomed for leadership in the GOP but not the nomiinee in 2012, at least not at the top of the ticket. It is too early to make such predictions. Nice try though.
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He is direct but low key and soft spoken. It is his message of conservatism and common sense approach that makes him popular in Louisiana, not oratory skills. We will see how far oratory skills alone carry someone. Bobby Jindal is a Rhodes Scholar and very capable, but he is not being groomed to run in 2012.
I heard a story on NPR yesterday mornng before the speech that Jindal was being groomed to be the nominee in 2012. I guess since the speech, the Repubs are backpedaling.
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