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Originally Posted by g-vegas
Obama lovers say that he is not a Socialist, and that his policies have nothing to do with Socialism; than what is Socialism. Here are Obamas plans for his four year term, you decide:
1. Wants the privately owned banks to be federally funded and managed. Not true at all, they gov't is being forced to step in and SAVE a few big banks that would otherwise fail and take the market with them. Better for the Gov't to take a stake then just keep handing them corporate welfare. There are maybe a half dozen banks in the country a that are being considered for this latch ditch effort to save them.
2. Wants all private citizens to make the same income and live the same lifestyle. Not even close to the truth, he's never said or even alluded to it. All he's said is that the income gap has done nothing but grow since Reagan and it's bad for everyone. The rich can continue to get richer but they are going to have to start paying their share.
3. Wants increased caps on how much private and public businesses can make. Source?
4. Wants increase funding for welfare and other entitlements. In a time of record unemployment and a faltering economy, we would be foolhardy NOT to take care of our poorest citizens. I have no problem with this.
5. Wants the government to run and manage the radio waves and television airwaves (Fairness doctrine) First Ammendment The FCC manages the airwaves, they HAVE to or it would be a technical nightmare.
6. Wants an end to private gun ownership Second Ammendment Not true.
7. Wants to limit the states rights Tenth Amendment You'll have to be more specific to have a reasonable discussion about this point.
These are just a few of the many socialist ideals that "The Messiah" wants to inact. Yes fellow Americans Change is here.
The only people that call Obama the Messiah are his opposition, I'm still trying to figure that one out.
[quote=g-vegas;7648493]Obama lovers say that he is not a Socialist, and that his policies have nothing to do with Socialism; than what is Socialism. Here are Obamas plans for his four year term, you decide:
1. Wants the privately owned banks to be federally funded and managed.
Under a socialist regime there wouldn't be any privately owned banks, period. The ideal socialist concept of banking would be to replace commercial banks with a series of publicly owned credit unions. In socialist/Marxist terminology what is presently occurring in the American banking system would be more accurately described as state monopoly capital and anathema to socialist principles.
2. Wants all private citizens to make the same income and live the same lifestyle.
Marx wrote in "1875 Critique of the Gotha Program" the famous phrase "From each according to their abilities, to each according to their need." There is nothing in any Marxist tract that I have ever read that requires an equalization of incomes or living styles. In fact is virtually every "socialist" society the idea of variations in compensation and rewards was always part of the system. Those whom the central planners deemed more important to the overall society always received more.
3. Wants increased caps on how much private and public businesses can make.
I really don't have a clue as to what this has to with either socialism or even capitalism.
4. Wants increase funding for welfare and other entitlements.
Socialist would argue that there would be no need for welfare since the state would eliminate the use of surplus labor pools to reduce upward pressure on wages. As the employer of first and last resort full employment would eliminate the need for welfare in the first place.
5. Wants the government to run and manage the radio waves and television airwaves (Fairness doctrine) First Ammendment
Again, I don't know what this has to do with socialism since the idea of regulating radio waves had everything to do with protecting the private interest of private companies. With out government regulation of the airwaves you could insure clear and uninterrupted broadcast since there would be nothing to stop competing stations from broadcasting over the same frequency. As a result the broadcast frequencies have to be assigned. The Fairness Doctrine, enacted in 1947, was to not only insure that in certain limited cases that opposing views would have the opportunity to be heard but to insure that broadcasters using Federal airwaves would give airtime to controversial matters of public interest.
Under a socialist regime there wouldn't be private broadcasters to begin with and anti-socialist opinions would find much airing on state run broadcast. But that's just a guess.
6. Wants an end to private gun ownership Second Ammendment
Ending private ownership of firearms certainly isn't socialist since many a right wing capitalist society outlaw gun ownership. Certainly no country has a more free wheeling for of capitalism than Singapore, yet gun ownership is strictly forbidden.
7. Wants to limit the states rights Tenth Amendment
The argument over the supremacy of the state vs the Federal government is as old as the Constitution itself. The Commerce Clause was first litigated in 1824, Gibbons v. Ogden and numerous cases since have established the rights of states vs those of the Federal government.
Just out of curiosity why do 10th Amendment advocates ignore the ramifications of the 14th?
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These are just a few of the many socialist ideals that "The Messiah" wants to inact. Yes fellow Americans Change is here.
No, more like a few examples of perceived socialist ideals, with a mix of political mumbo jumbo that speaks more to uninformed opinion, gross exaggeration and paranoid fantasy.
And let us be clear here: The "fairness doctrine" by any other name or means, is still the "fairness doctrine"
They are trying to go about this by through the "back door", by requiring more local content, and local ownership of stations, and community approval of what a station may carry. This may sound good on the surface; however it has an evil intent.
This means that in any area that might be significantly Democrat, for example, Democrats will have control of a stations content, and even station ownership. Conservative talk radio will be drastically cut, even though there may be a large audience in that area that wants Rush, Hannity, and the rest.
These people are plainly evil, and simply must be defeated. They think we don't notice their sleight of hand. But we do.
These people, from Pelosi, and Reid, to Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, Chriss Dodd and the rest, and Barack Hussein Obama, are nothing but evil.
Wake up, America!
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And let us be clear here: The "fairness doctrine" by any other name or means, is still the "fairness doctrine"
They are trying to go about this by through the "back door", by requiring more local content, and local ownership of stations, and community approval of what a station may carry. This may sound good on the surface; however it has an evil intent.
This means that in any area that might be significantly Democrat, for example, Democrats will have control of a stations content, and even station ownership. Conservative talk radio will be drastically cut, even though there may be a large audience in that area that wants Rush, Hannity, and the rest.
These people are plainly evil, and simply must be defeated. They think we don't notice their sleight of hand. But we do.
These people, from Pelosi, and Reid, to Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, Chriss Dodd and the rest, and Barack Hussein Obama, are nothing but evil.
Good then I'll quit my job and sip margaritas by my pool while someone else pays my mortgage and sends me a check. Hmmmm I'm starting to like this guy. I should tell my kids not to bother going to college since there's nothing to strive for. The more you make the more they are going to take.
That's a fabulous idea! You do that. I'm sure your children will appreciate your fine advice.
obama lovers say that he is not a socialist, and that his policies have nothing to do with socialism; than what is socialism. Here are obamas plans for his four year term, you decide:
1. Wants the privately owned banks to be federally funded and managed.
2. Wants all private citizens to make the same income and live the same lifestyle.
3. Wants increased caps on how much private and public businesses can make.
4. Wants increase funding for welfare and other entitlements.
5. Wants the government to run and manage the radio waves and television airwaves (fairness doctrine) first ammendment
6. Wants an end to private gun ownership second ammendment
7. Wants to limit the states rights tenth amendment
these are just a few of the many socialist ideals that "the messiah" wants to inact. Yes fellow americans change is here.
Keep laughing, pretty soon you will be crying as you take the last two bucks that are left from your paycheck to go buy the thinkgs you need. Everyone loves the Messiah because he promises an easy life, just remember; Nothing Is Free.
I missed that part. maybe you can point it out for me...
"None of this will come without cost, nor will it be easy. But this is America. We don't do what's easy. We do what's necessary to move this country forward."
"I suffer no illusions that this will be an easy process. Once again, it will be hard. But I also know that nearly a century after Teddy Roosevelt first called for reform, the cost of our health care has weighed down our economy and our conscience long enough. So let there be no doubt: Health care reform cannot wait, it must not wait, and it will not wait another year."
"Given these realities, everyone in this chamber -- Democrats and Republicans -- will have to sacrifice some worthy priorities for which there are no dollars. And that includes me"
"And if we do -- if we come together and lift this nation from the depths of this crisis; if we put our people back to work and restart the engine of our prosperity; if we confront without fear the challenges of our time and summon that enduring spirit of an America that does not quit, then someday years from now our children can tell their children that this was the time when we performed, in the words that are carved into this very chamber, "something worthy to be remembered." [/i]
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Here are Obamas plans for his four year term, you decide:
