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Old 03-08-2009, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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Hey, whatever makes you feel better about the absolute plunge of the Dow once Obama took over.
You must be living in fantasy land if you think this started with Pres. Obama....You and those crooks you support are solely responsible for this mess our Country is in....Unfortunately some folks are too blind to realize it...
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Old 03-08-2009, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Marietta, GA
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To borrow a phrase...."There you go again" reinventing history to suit your political opinions. To try and blame the current crisis on Bush and the Republicans alone is to ignore the facts. See my post in another thread:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/elect...ml#post7723242
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Old 03-08-2009, 05:29 PM
 
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That's right I remember this response to all those foreclosures in 2004. Oh but the house passed the bill to fix that. Wait that bill never got out of a Senate republican committee. Oh whoa is me where can a conservative look to pass the blame? Wait the foreclosures never happened in 2004. They were never even written till 2006, I guess neo-cons were just trying to save themselves from themselves
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Old 03-08-2009, 06:24 PM
 
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Make no mistake about that. We're in great hands with Barack Obama tackling these problems, but let's make that clear who is the real culprit here. The village idiot and his band of conservatives and neocons, inherited a budget surplus. Yes, that's S.U.R.P.L.U.S, for those of you criticizing Obama who don't recognize that word. 8 years they had.
Oooh brother.. when will the lies stop?

Clinton did not have a surplus, he simply began to borrow against the social security fund..

Dont let facts stand in your way though!!!
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Old 03-08-2009, 06:41 PM
 
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Oooh brother.. when will the lies stop?

Clinton did not have a surplus, he simply began to borrow against the social security fund..

Dont let facts stand in your way though!!!
Oh brother step away from the beer bong
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Old 03-08-2009, 07:29 PM
 
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It wasnt just that he made SS part of the general fund but also that the economy was so hot that the contributions to SS were piling up at a high rate. If you consider him staying clear of a flourishing economy as some kind of accomplisment then you need to put down the kool aid. Clinton did nothing which was a good thing.

Im not blaming osama bin barock for the crisis im blaming him for his inability to effect change
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Old 03-08-2009, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Here
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You must be living in fantasy land if you think this started with Pres. Obama....You and those crooks you support are solely responsible for this mess our Country is in....Unfortunately some folks are too blind to realize it...
Never said it started with Obama, it simply accelerated once the election was over and he won.
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:24 PM
 
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Bush did start the crisis and obama can't make it go away. It took alot of greedy epole both seeling and buying on money they didnt' have. That is quite obvious in that the average american was spending 140% of his/her income. When it is credit with interest it catchuop with you sooner or later.While tehy scream about loans to banks ;they want programs that give them everything for free.They some how see a difference.
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Old 03-09-2009, 06:18 PM
 
Location: The Planet Mars
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I agree with the OP - but also recognize that past democrats share some of the blame..

But - Dubya takes the lion's share of the blame due to his 'deregulation at any cost' mentality - and his looking the other way in spite of being advised for years about the gathering economic storm clouds...

I am glad that I voted for Obama - and believe that his policies will help us much more than hurt us...

The current economic problems would in no way shape or form be McCain's fault were he elected - and they are not Obama's either.

Dubya owns this 'Dubya Depression' we are in...
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Old 03-09-2009, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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Never said it started with Obama, it simply accelerated once the election was over and he won.
Thanks for clarifying....Now let's allow his policies to make through the system and try to reverse the colossal damage that was done to our economy...
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