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Old 03-02-2009, 01:30 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Make no mistake about that. We're in great hands with Barack Obama tackling these problems, but let's make that clear who is the real culprit here. The village idiot and his band of conservatives and neocons, inherited a budget surplus. Yes, that's S.U.R.P.L.U.S, for those of you criticizing Obama who don't recognize that word. 8 years they had.

8 years to invest in alternative energy sources to minimize our dependence on oil. 8 years to incorporate lending regulations to keep predatory lenders and their ambiguous, deceptive contracts away from unsuspecting buyers. 8 years to develop a foundation so that jobs could be created for Americans, not boosting the economies of India and Chinia. 8 years to curtail illegal immigration. 8 years to deal with the street gang problem. 8 years to stop this flow of Indians moving into our communities with H-1B visas, where they displace American workers and practice separatist behavior, 8 years to incorporate education reform. 8 years to put mechanisms in place to avoid a housing crisis. They had 8 years to control gas prices. 8 years to revamp health care and the income tax code. So forth and so on. They had 8 years!

What did they do? They squandered nearly a TRILLION dollars fighting an ideological war that we could not win. It was like trying to eliminate the clouds with gunfire. Might as well been declared a "war on clouds." This lack of action on the domestic agenda, this severe neglect, is the reason why the country is in a free fall. Those of you who supported and voted for the village idiot, who supported his reelection and who supported McCain, should be ashamed of yourselves. You were and remain a part of the problem. You have absolutely no say in the direction of this country. Your opinions on what Obama is doing to correct this problem are largely irrelevant because history has shown that your political instincts are unreliable and wrong. If you voted for Bush the second time around, you should be hiding, doing more and talking less. It's laughable to read criticism of Obama by someone who didn't have sense enough to recognize that Bush didn't deserve a second term. The "no taxes" argument didn't work.

Thank God we have a great problem solver at the helm in Barack Obama to tackle these problems. It may take time, but he will resolve them.
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Old 03-02-2009, 02:02 PM
 
Location: The Great State of Texas, Finally!
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Hmmmm. Right. Your state, with the likes of Boxer, Pelosi, Feinstein, and your doofus for a governor. You guys are in a pretty bang up way economically, aren't you? Repubs don't run your state, nor are they in your state's majority, yet, well, you know the rest of the story.
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Old 03-02-2009, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Idaho Falls
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I've gotta disagree with you a bit, Alexus. I believe that Clinton and the congressional Dems who went along with the conservative movement to defund the SEC and release Wall Street from regulation are also partly to blame.

Shows what happens when you follow conservative advice.
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Old 03-02-2009, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I've gotta disagree with you a bit, Alexus. I believe that Clinton and the congressional Dems who went along with the conservative movement to defund the SEC and release Wall Street from regulation are also partly to blame.

Shows what happens when you follow conservative advice.
No, it shows what happens when both political parties are in the bag for the same corporations.

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

This is news?
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Old 03-02-2009, 04:49 PM
 
Location: New York, New York
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I've gotta disagree with you a bit, Alexus. I believe that Clinton and the congressional Dems who went along with the conservative movement to defund the SEC and release Wall Street from regulation are also partly to blame.

Shows what happens when you follow conservative advice.
I agree with you. The republicans have made it political suicide to fiscally responsible. They have a whole generation believing that its taxes that has them strapped for cash. Even though taxes haven't really gone up on the average income in a long time. People fail to connect the dots that profits have skyrocketed and wages have been stagnant. I guess thats the governments fault aswell?
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:18 PM
 
Location: North America
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I've gotta disagree with you a bit, Alexus. I believe that Clinton and the congressional Dems who went along with the conservative movement to defund the SEC and release Wall Street from regulation are also partly to blame.

Shows what happens when you follow conservative advice.

Your speaking of Gramm Leach Bliley, aren't you. That's where it started, IMHO. Clinton made a huge mistake signing that turkey.
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:39 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Default 8 years of Bush and Republican control are the reason we're in this mess

That's clear to 84% of the public and anyone who still has two or more brain cells capable of firing simultaneously.
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Old 03-04-2009, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Sunny Phoenix Arizona...wishing for a beach.
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Make no mistake about that. We're in great hands with Barack Obama tackling these problems, but let's make that clear who is the real culprit here. The village idiot and his band of conservatives and neocons, inherited a budget surplus. Yes, that's S.U.R.P.L.U.S, for those of you criticizing Obama who don't recognize that word. 8 years they had.

8 years to invest in alternative energy sources to minimize our dependence on oil. 8 years to incorporate lending regulations to keep predatory lenders and their ambiguous, deceptive contracts away from unsuspecting buyers. 8 years to develop a foundation so that jobs could be created for Americans, not boosting the economies of India and Chinia. 8 years to curtail illegal immigration. 8 years to deal with the street gang problem. 8 years to stop this flow of Indians moving into our communities with H-1B visas, where they displace American workers and practice separatist behavior, 8 years to incorporate education reform. 8 years to put mechanisms in place to avoid a housing crisis. They had 8 years to control gas prices. 8 years to revamp health care and the income tax code. So forth and so on. They had 8 years!

What did they do? They squandered nearly a TRILLION dollars fighting an ideological war that we could not win. It was like trying to eliminate the clouds with gunfire. Might as well been declared a "war on clouds." This lack of action on the domestic agenda, this severe neglect, is the reason why the country is in a free fall. Those of you who supported and voted for the village idiot, who supported his reelection and who supported McCain, should be ashamed of yourselves. You were and remain a part of the problem. You have absolutely no say in the direction of this country. Your opinions on what Obama is doing to correct this problem are largely irrelevant because history has shown that your political instincts are unreliable and wrong. If you voted for Bush the second time around, you should be hiding, doing more and talking less. It's laughable to read criticism of Obama by someone who didn't have sense enough to recognize that Bush didn't deserve a second term. The "no taxes" argument didn't work.

Thank God we have a great problem solver at the helm in Barack Obama to tackle these problems. It may take time, but he will resolve them.

Yes thank goodness the dems are in charge now.......

Maxine Waters: "We do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac and particularly Fannie Mae under the outstanding leadership of Frank Raines" - Reformed Chicks Blabbing
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Old 03-04-2009, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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Make no mistake about that. We're in great hands with Barack Obama tackling these problems, but let's make that clear who is the real culprit here. The village idiot and his band of conservatives and neocons, inherited a budget surplus. Yes, that's S.U.R.P.L.U.S, for those of you criticizing Obama who don't recognize that word. 8 years they had.

8 years to invest in alternative energy sources to minimize our dependence on oil. 8 years to incorporate lending regulations to keep predatory lenders and their ambiguous, deceptive contracts away from unsuspecting buyers. 8 years to develop a foundation so that jobs could be created for Americans, not boosting the economies of India and Chinia. 8 years to curtail illegal immigration. 8 years to deal with the street gang problem. 8 years to stop this flow of Indians moving into our communities with H-1B visas, where they displace American workers and practice separatist behavior, 8 years to incorporate education reform. 8 years to put mechanisms in place to avoid a housing crisis. They had 8 years to control gas prices. 8 years to revamp health care and the income tax code. So forth and so on. They had 8 years!

What did they do? They squandered nearly a TRILLION dollars fighting an ideological war that we could not win. It was like trying to eliminate the clouds with gunfire. Might as well been declared a "war on clouds." This lack of action on the domestic agenda, this severe neglect, is the reason why the country is in a free fall. Those of you who supported and voted for the village idiot, who supported his reelection and who supported McCain, should be ashamed of yourselves. You were and remain a part of the problem. You have absolutely no say in the direction of this country. Your opinions on what Obama is doing to correct this problem are largely irrelevant because history has shown that your political instincts are unreliable and wrong. If you voted for Bush the second time around, you should be hiding, doing more and talking less. It's laughable to read criticism of Obama by someone who didn't have sense enough to recognize that Bush didn't deserve a second term. The "no taxes" argument didn't work.

Thank God we have a great problem solver at the helm in Barack Obama to tackle these problems. It may take time, but he will resolve them.
Great post......Can you only imagine if McCain had got elected.....The Dow would be sitting @ 500 points
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Old 03-04-2009, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Here
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Great post......Can you only imagine if McCain had got elected.....The Dow would be sitting @ 500 points
Hey, whatever makes you feel better about the absolute plunge of the Dow once Obama took over.
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