Polls Are Showing That The Honeymoon Is Over (patriot, Republican, Barack Obama) - Page 2 - City-Data Forum

nickeldude · 03-13-2009, 11:34 AM

Haha I love how this thread was immediately pwned. Well done newtoli.

TRUEGRITT · 03-13-2009, 11:43 AM

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Interestingly enough, Congress' approval is skyrocketing.

Posting congress' numbers, and past numbers, While brushing off one of the most respected pollsters in the industry, merely shows the typical reaction of Dems to bad news. It is just an attempt to deflect from Obama's plummeting numbers due to his lies, broken promises and bumbling meetings with world leaders.

newtoli · 03-13-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TRUEGRITT

Posting congress' numbers, and past numbers, While brushing off one of the most respected pollsters in the industry, merely shows the typical reaction of Dems to bad news. It is just an attempt to deflect from Obama's plummeting numbers due to his lies, broken promises and bumbling meetings with world leaders.

No, it's looking at facts and historical statistics vs. opinion.

I prefer to form my own opinions based on facts rather than hyperbole. You would rather take what others tell you as fact without looking at historical data.

Looking at historical statistics, Obama is following the exact same trend each President before him did... do you not agree?

TRUEGRITT · 03-13-2009, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by newtoli

No, it's looking at facts and historical statistics vs. opinion.

I prefer to form my own opinions based on facts rather than hyperbole. You would rather take what others tell you as fact without looking at historical data.

Looking at historical stats, Obama is following the exact same trend each President before him did... do you not agree?

Yes I do, meaning he is headed exactly where Bush ended up and that is the point.

Did you or anyone know about this and what do you think?
Barack Obama sends bust of Winston Churchill on its way back to Britain

newtoli · 03-13-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TRUEGRITT

Yes I do, meaning he is headed exactly where Bush ended up and that is the point.

Did you or anyone know about this and what do you think?
Barack Obama sends bust of Winston Churchill on its way back to Britain

Or you could say he is headed exactly where Clinton ended up... but you chose Bush because you prefer to see the glass as half full.

While they all end differently due to different effects on their Presidencies, the historical trend remains the same for the start.

TRUEGRITT · 03-13-2009, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by newtoli

Or you could say he is headed exactly where Clinton ended up... but you chose Bush because you prefer to see the glass as half full.

While they all end differently due to different effects on their Presidencies, the historical trend remains the same for the start.

I was no Clinton supporter but it is easy to see that Obama is no Clinton so why would I try to compare them.

What about the article I posted to you, what do you have to say about it?

newtoli · 03-13-2009, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TRUEGRITT

I was no Clinton supporter but it is easy to see that Obama is no Clinton so why would I try to compare them.

What about the article I posted to you, what do you have to say about it?

And Obama is no Bush either. Statistics, however, are telling. Every single President experienced the exact same uptick, then downtick. So Obama's approval ratings show the same trend and are not abnormal. I know you don't want to believe it, but numbers don't lie.

That really has nothing to do with this thread. Do you think it's big news? The British are going to present Obama with a replacement for his administration. I sure wouldn't want to keep something presented to Bush either.

TRUEGRITT · 03-13-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by newtoli

And Obama is no Bush either. Statistics, however, are telling. Every single President experienced the exact same uptick, then downtick. So Obama's approval ratings show the same trend and are not abnormal. I know you don't want to believe it, but numbers don't lie.

That really has nothing to do with this thread. Do you think it's big news? The British are going to present Obama with a replacement for his administration. I sure wouldn't want to keep something presented to Bush either.

You are right again, Obama is no Bush, he may very well end up being the worst POTUS ever. He certainly has a good start at it.

It does because it shows even more how big of a screw up he is and the more he screws up the more his numbers will drop.

SuperIncumbent · 03-13-2009, 12:15 PM

The truth hurts.

Deal with it, libs.

newtoli · 03-13-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TRUEGRITT

You are right again, Obama is no Bush, he may very well end up being the worst POTUS ever. He certainly has a good start at it.

It does because it shows even more how big of a screw up he is and the more he screws up the more his numbers will drop.

Ah, but here you bring emotion vs. fact.

Again, he has the same starting trend statistically as every other President since data has been tracked. No different from any President in the past, yet some people try to make it out to be.

Not really, lets say you start a new job. The old employees stuff still decorates the walls. Are you going to leave his stuff there or make that office your own?