Polls Are Showing That The Honeymoon Is Over (security, campaign, thought)

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by TRUEGRITT

There are some on here who will refuse to see it. When it comes to Obama...they are myopic.

Numbers don't lie.

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by nononsenseguy

That's a bit inflated, I think.

According to an report in the Wall Street Journal today by Douglas E. Schoen and Scott Rasmussen:

"Polling data show that Mr. Obama's approval rating is dropping and is below where George W. Bush was in an analogous period in 2001"

"Overall, Rasmussen Reports shows a 56%-43% approval, with a third strongly disapproving of the president's performance. This is a substantial degree of polarization so early in the administration. Mr. Obama has lost virtually all of his Republican support and a good part of his Independent support, and the trend is decidedly negative."

Why would Gallup be the one that's inflated? Maybe Rasmussen is deflated.

Rasmussen conducts their results in a totally different way from every other poll does. They count is as Strongly Approve v. Strongly Disapprove with 2 other levels in the middle. Gallup is much more straightforward Yes/No/No Opinion.

Anyway, if you wish, take the average of all polls out there, and it's still at 60.8%. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/#rcp-avg-904

Interesting chart on Rasmussen:

[Upton]

Originally Posted by TRUEGRITT

There are some on here who will refuse to see it. When it comes to Obama...they are myopic.

You could say the same thing for the Obama haters...heck, you guys have been all over the lot..first, Rev Wright was going to take him down.. then, he wasn't even eligible to be POTUS... next, Sarah Palin was going to save the right wing's bacon..all of which have been proven wrong. And now, the honeymoon's over.

Get used to it...our fine new young president is here to stay...he knows what he's doing and the public loves him.

[TRUEGRITT]

Originally Posted by newtoli

Numbers don't lie.

If numbers don't lie then here is the truth.

Overall, Rasmussen Reports shows a 56%-43% approval, with a third strongly disapproving of the president's performance.

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by TRUEGRITT

If numbers don't lie then here is the truth.

Overall, Rasmussen Reports shows a 56%-43% approval, with a third strongly disapproving of the president's performance.

Ah, but you can't take from just one set of numbers (that are calculated in an entirely different manner from other polls) and call that the Truth. I could, in turn, say Gallup is "The Truth" with 62%/27%. What makes Rasmussen the truth vs. Gallup? I'd love an answer.

Read the way Rasmussen calculates their approval ratings, they were very off on Bush as well (see graph) due to the way they calculate their numbers. It's not a simple approve or disapprove rating with their poll.

Take an average of all polls and you get 60.8% vs. 30.2%, and that includes Rasmussen. Take a look at how their disapprove number is very skewed compared to the rest. The next highest disapprove rating at RCP is a 29%. Why would there be such a large spread from Rasmussen v. other polls?

Is Rasmussen the only one that's right because they're telling you what you want to hear? Or wouldn't it make more sense that the other polls with similar trends would be correct. Simple statistics.

[CTYankee69]

Originally Posted by newtoli

Yes, the owner of a poll site. Your point?

Twice as many people approve than disapprove.

Twice as many so very mislead

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by CTYankee69

Twice as many so very mislead

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/#rcp-avg-904

30% Disapprove
60% Approve

30 x 2 = 60.

Twice as many people approve.

So explain to me how that is misleading. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

[TRUEGRITT]

Originally Posted by newtoli

RealClearPolitics - RealClearPolitics Poll Averages

30% Disapprove
60% Approve

30 x 2 = 60.

Twice as many people approve.

So explain to me how that is misleading. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

CTYankee69 said "Twice as many so very mislead" not misleading, mislead.

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by TRUEGRITT

CTYankee69 said "Twice as many so very mislead" not misleading, mislead.

That would be misled, hence the confusion.

[TRUEGRITT]

Originally Posted by newtoli

That would be misled, hence the confusion.

I agree...you are confused.