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Old 03-19-2009, 09:01 AM
 
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Don't forget to add in the hidden cost not given by the Bush Administration, or the Trillions dollars in debt Bush gave us or the bailout Bush passed! Obama passed a stimulus package, Bush is the one who signed the Bailout.. Learn the difference.
Do you at all try to be factual? Bush passed a $700B stimulus package, of which he spent $350B and left $350B for Obama to spend. Obama in turn did not spend $350B but passed an ADDITIONAL $1T. Thats $1.35TRILLION spent by Obama in months, FOUR times what Bush spent..

Lets not even discuss Obama and his "line by line" pledge that he continues to repeat.

Talking about the Bush deficit is almost histerical since Obama just spent in 3 months what the Bush deficit ran for two years.

And lets not even talk about why those deficits continue to ring up, social spending on welfare plans..
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Old 03-19-2009, 09:03 AM
 
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Let's see what did Bush do in his first 100 days? Ohh Yeah, play golf.
Try to stay focused, topic is Obamas spending vs the cost of the war... What Bush did 8 years ago has nothing to do with the topic..

Deflection will only get you so far before people realise that the topic is Obama and his broken promises and excessive spending.
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Old 03-19-2009, 09:05 AM
 
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And he promised to put online every bill for 5 days before he signed them, not once has he done that.

Go back and read what he actually stated. "nonemergency". So as usual twisting information
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Old 03-19-2009, 09:12 AM
 
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Try to stay focused, topic is Obamas spending vs the cost of the war... What Bush did 8 years ago has nothing to do with the topic..

Deflection will only get you so far before people realise that the topic is Obama and his broken promises and excessive spending.

Thats where your wrong. That spending bill would never had come to that amount if the country was not in danger of collapse. You seem to want to deflect past that. So lets see what the republicans come up with, according to them they have a plan in the works to present to the President that would cut the spending.

So lets take the cost of the war and the many lives lost out of the equation. Forget the Billion dollars of contracts that were given to Blackwater, forget the billions of dollars sent overseas, forget the blind eye to the recession, forget the blind eye to the high cost of gas prices. Forget all of that... oh sorry can't because of the past 8 years of carelessness from Congress, Senate and most of all the former President
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Old 03-19-2009, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Money on the WAR was and still is being completely wasted. The obama stimulus package will do all of us some good.
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Old 03-19-2009, 09:28 AM
 
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Go back and read what he actually stated. "nonemergency". So as usual twisting information
So your telling me the funding to build tracks through a woods (in the stimulus bill) is "an emergency"

Give me a break..
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Old 03-19-2009, 09:32 AM
 
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Thats where your wrong. That spending bill would never had come to that amount if the country was not in danger of collapse. You seem to want to deflect past that. So lets see what the republicans come up with, according to them they have a plan in the works to present to the President that would cut the spending.

So lets take the cost of the war and the many lives lost out of the equation. Forget the Billion dollars of contracts that were given to Blackwater, forget the billions of dollars sent overseas, forget the blind eye to the recession, forget the blind eye to the high cost of gas prices. Forget all of that... oh sorry can't because of the past 8 years of carelessness from Congress, Senate and most of all the former President
Wow, lets think about how the spending on the Iraqi war wouldnt have been needed either if the Iraqi intelligence out during the Clinton administration was correct..

Forget the legislations that caused oil to go up, forget the legislations that caused businesses to lay people off, forget the faulty intelligence, the higher costs for socialist plans..

Thats ok though, you guys can make Bush the scape goat for everyones problems, dont think he cares nor do I.. I understand I am responsible for my family, your responsible for yours..
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Old 03-19-2009, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Were his green fees $687B?
No, it was $1.5 trillion, the projected cost of declaring two wars, money that was to be borrowed, not to be included in the budget so as to not make look deficit as bad as it would otherwise and the declaration by the administration that opposition was not an option with backing from the same right wing nutcases that are now whing and crying and dividing this country.

The question is, where were you?
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Old 03-19-2009, 09:42 AM
 
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Wow, lets think about how the spending on the Iraqi war wouldnt have been needed either if the Iraqi intelligence out during the Clinton administration was correct..

Forget the legislations that caused oil to go up, forget the legislations that caused businesses to lay people off, forget the faulty intelligence, the higher costs for socialist plans..

Thats ok though, you guys can make Bush the scape goat for everyones problems, dont think he cares nor do I.. I understand I am responsible for my family, your responsible for yours..

Twisting again....When did that come out during the Congressional hearing on the Iraq war? Did anyone else hear that it was the inteligence gathered during the Clinton administration that caused Bush to send thousand of soldiers to their death? Twisting...

Legislation to cause oil prices to increase and unemployment...hmmmm again twisting....
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Old 03-19-2009, 10:06 AM
 
Location: San Salvador, El Salvador
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Do you at all try to be factual? Bush passed a $700B stimulus package, of which he spent $350B and left $350B for Obama to spend. Obama in turn did not spend $350B but passed an ADDITIONAL $1T. Thats $1.35TRILLION spent by Obama in months, FOUR times what Bush spent..

Lets not even discuss Obama and his "line by line" pledge that he continues to repeat.

Talking about the Bush deficit is almost histerical since Obama just spent in 3 months what the Bush deficit ran for two years.

And lets not even talk about why those deficits continue to ring up, social spending on welfare plans..
Factual? I said Signed.. That's fact.

How about you be factual.. Bush signed a Bailout bill, not a stimulus bill. That's not including the 4 trillion dollars that Paulson gave away to the banks without congress approval.. So I see your Obama 1 trillion with a Bush 4 trillion.
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