The Barack Obama Birth Certificate Thread (Part 2) (interview, spokeswoman, statistics)

[meson]

Originally Posted by Austin13

Thank you. Nice place.

Oh, yes. The Obama b/c issue, IMO, is absolutely about a political agenda, period, paragraph, the end.

Yes Politijab.com is a great site, many REAL lawyers with REAL knowledge post there....the good stuff is hidden from public view though, you need to join to access the cream!

[TRUEGRITT]

Originally Posted by newtoli

Where exactly did he "threaten" him?

How exactly is that "heavy handed"?

The suit was determined frivolous and he could be charged for fees if he continues - they are simply informing him of that, I'm sure Orly never did.

IMO - as the Judge said when dismissing the case - they should start collecting fees for these frivolous lawsuits. It's a waste of time and money.

It's obvious you did not read the entire article.

An appeal has not been filed yet but Obama's attorney felt compelled to threaten Mr. Hemenway if he did. Extorsion comes to mind and that is very heavy handed. Here is how Mr. Hemenway described it since you did not read it.

"Mr. Hemenway added, "The lawyer for Obama, Robert Bauer, has abused his privileges as an attorney, because I can regard his premature (and totally inaccurate) threats to seek some sanction against me as a threat to keep me from performing my duty to my client."

The big question is...why didn't judge Robertson sanction Mr. Hemenway.

"“…to appeal the slap taken at me (the so-called “reprimand”) by Judge James Robertson who tried unsuccessfully to label our efforts as “frivolous” but who did not have the guts to sanction me under Rule 11. (This would have given me—and others engaged in this important battle —standing in the Court of Appeals.)"

I hope this answers your questions but again, you could have learned all of this had you simply read the article.

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by TRUEGRITT

It's obvious you did not read the entire article.

An appeal has not been filed yet but Obama's attorney felt compelled to threaten Mr. Hemenway if he did. Extorsion comes to mind and that is very heavy handed. Here is how Mr. Hemenway described it since you did not read it.

"Mr. Hemenway added, "The lawyer for Obama, Robert Bauer, has abused his privileges as an attorney, because I can regard his premature (and totally inaccurate) threats to seek some sanction against me as a threat to keep me from performing my duty to my client."

The big question is...why didn't judge Robertson sanction Mr. Hemenway.

"“…to appeal the slap taken at me (the so-called “reprimand”) by Judge James Robertson who tried unsuccessfully to label our efforts as “frivolous” but who did not have the guts to sanction me under Rule 11. (This would have given me—and others engaged in this important battle —standing in the Court of Appeals.)"

I hope this answers your questions but again, you could have learned all of this had you simply read the article.

I did read the entire article.

That is not a threat.

He is simply informing the litigant that if an appeal is filed he will take legal remedy.

Are you a lawyer? That is not extortion, just like what happened to you in the other thread is not slander.

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by TRUEGRITT

You mean the one that a forensic document expert said could not be relied upon as authentic? What would be the point of looking at a COLB that has probably been forged? Now if you had the original to go along with it then you would have something. You could see if the info matched for instance and then kn ow for sure if Obama was eligible or not. But NOOOOOOOOOO,
Obama will not let that happen.

A documents expert said the internet copy could not be authenitcated. She did not say it was a fake. The Hawaiian government has confirmed, from looking at the original, that OBAMA WAS BORN IN HAWAII!

Originally Posted by TRUEGRITT

It's obvious you did not read the entire article.

An appeal has not been filed yet but Obama's attorney felt compelled to threaten Mr. Hemenway if he did. Extorsion comes to mind and that is very heavy handed. Here is how Mr. Hemenway described it since you did not read it.

"Mr. Hemenway added, "The lawyer for Obama, Robert Bauer, has abused his privileges as an attorney, because I can regard his premature (and totally inaccurate) threats to seek some sanction against me as a threat to keep me from performing my duty to my client."

The big question is...why didn't judge Robertson sanction Mr. Hemenway.

"“…to appeal the slap taken at me (the so-called “reprimand”) by Judge James Robertson who tried unsuccessfully to label our efforts as “frivolous” but who did not have the guts to sanction me under Rule 11. (This would have given me—and others engaged in this important battle —standing in the Court of Appeals.)"

I hope this answers your questions but again, you could have learned all of this had you simply read the article.

Sounds like lawyer-talk to me.

[blackandproud]

Originally Posted by TRUEGRITT

The constitution says he must be a NBC which he has yet to prove conclusively. In my eyes it is Obama and the believers who want to change the constitution. Lets get another COLB overnighted from Hawaii to the Congress and have it opened in front of everyone and see if it matches the web COLB. Got a problem with that? If you do, I know why.

Now you really have me confused. If your saying that the web BC can not be authenticated, WHY is there a need to match up the original with the web? I went back and look at some earlier posts, it appears that some of the earlier issues was the fact that BOTH parents were not born in the US. It seems that you guys are trying this comedic relief from every angle.

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by blackandproud

Now you really have me confused. If your saying that the web BC can not be authenticated, WHY is there a need to match up the original with the web? I went back and look at some earlier posts, it appears that some of the earlier issues was the fact that BOTH parents were not born in the US. It seems that you guys are trying this comedic relief from every angle.

You're right. Whenever a "birther" concludes that really, Obama was born in Hawaii, s/he brings up the issue of both parents, which has already been resolved. Heck, everyone knows Obama's father was born in Kenya! If that were such an issue, he never would have been able to run in the first place.

[Freemore]

TG are you ok? Don't let the fact that President Obama is an American who is the President of the United States of America make you ill. You do agree is mother was an American citizen correct?

[TRUEGRITT]

Originally Posted by newtoli

I did read the entire article.

That is not a threat.

He is simply informing the litigant that if an appeal is filed he will take legal remedy.

Are you a lawyer? That is not extortion, just like what happened to you in the other thread is not slander.

Sanctions, by themselves, are a legal action, threatening sanctions in order to make someone comply with your demand is extortion.

[TRUEGRITT]

Originally Posted by blackandproud

Now you really have me confused. If your saying that the web BC can not be authenticated, WHY is there a need to match up the original with the web? I went back and look at some earlier posts, it appears that some of the earlier issues was the fact that BOTH parents were not born in the US. It seems that you guys are trying this comedic relief from every angle.

If you are not aware of all of the nuances of the situation, I am sure it confuses you. This is typical of people who come into this thread with no idea of what's going on and then they throw aspersions around out of ignorance.

[newtoli]

Originally Posted by TRUEGRITT

Sanctions, by themselves, are a legal action, threatening sanctions in order to make someone comply with your demand is extortion.

Sanctions are an available legal remedy to a frivolous lawsuit. That is not extortion. Is it extortion to tell someone, "call my number again and I'll file a restraining order"?