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Old 04-20-2009, 10:16 AM
 
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If you can't feed a hundred people, then feed just one.
Mother Teresa

If you judge people, you have no time to love them.
Mother Teresa
Thank you. Great quotes.........wisdom to remember.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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so you answer my post with quotes that aren't yours. so in reality, you can't defend him. he donated something like 1% of his money to charity before the election. he claimed that he was paying back student loans, while living in a mansion.

it seems to me that instead of looking up mother teresa quotes, you should simply look up the word politician. that will answer all your questions.

I don't need answers to questions. Perhaps an assailable quarry would be more efficacious.

Clearly one's giving needs no defense.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:21 AM
 
Location: The Land of Lincoln
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One thing never mentioned is how much "free" time the Obamas have devoted to helping others when they were community organizers. Donating time when you could be making a large salary as a corporate lawyer may not be quantifiable, but worth more than donating dollars.
I have some swamp land I can sell you...
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:30 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Yes the Cheneys gave 75% of their income for 2005, or a total over $7,000,000, oddly enough, a large part of that money was also due to book royalties..
Dick Cheney Donates Millions to Charity
Or could it have been from Cheney receiving money from Halliburton by selling stock-options when Halliburton's price "skyrocketed" during the Iraq War ???

THE 2004 CAMPAIGN: FACT CHECK; A Closer Look at Cheney and Halliburton - New York Times

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[NY Times - Sept 2004]The officials also said he had promised to donate to charity any after-tax profits he made from exercising his stock options.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:42 AM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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that is, unless your name is exxon. you're better off not replying. you lost this argument when you posted this thread.


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I don't need answers to questions. Perhaps an assailable quarry would be more efficacious.

Clearly one's giving needs no defense.
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Old 04-20-2009, 10:58 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Yeah, now that he is in the limelight and knows that everyone can see what he does. All a show and nothing else, but hey, he is after all a politician. They all do such things.
Um, the guy shunned top wall-street firms and other high-paying law jobs to work as a community organizer, which is something the GOP mocked...but it proves that Obama has always wanted to give back and that money was not his main motivation. Seriously, a couple like them could be rolling in dough right now if they wanted.

Keep in mind, I did not vote for Obama. I am a registered Republican, voted for Paul in the primary and Bob Barr in the general election. I just hate how people ignore facts and history and just make wild accusations. I don't agree with Obama's policies for the most part, but I do know that he's actually someone who cares about more than money.
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:10 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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One thing never mentioned is how much "free" time the Obamas have devoted to helping others when they were community organizers. Donating time when you could be making a large salary as a corporate lawyer may not be quantifiable, but worth more than donating dollars.
And also doing pro-bono civil rights law...the fact is, "donations to charities" only applies to 501(c)3 organizations and any money or time donated to something that is not one goes un-checked on the tax return.

If you looked at my tax return, you would say I donated nothing to charity, but I've actually donated 250 hours of my time and hundreds of dollars of my own money on training for local youth sports. I've never filled out a donation form to lower my taxable income, I just give that money out of the goodness of my heart and my desire to help out those less fortunate than I. The simple fact is that 501(c)3 donations can be a scheme to pay less in taxes just as much as they can be a sign that a person is giving back.
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Old 04-20-2009, 11:50 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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On their income, Obama should be able to do both.. But thats ok, continue to make excuses for him.


TaxProf Blog: Obama Releases 2007 Tax Return
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b..._returns_1.jpg



When the Obama's started to earn substantially more money beginning in 2005, they could afford to give a much larger percentage of their income to charity.

Why is that such a difficult concept to understand?
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:08 PM
 
Location: I currently exist only in a state of mind. one too complex for geographic location.
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what year did they buy their mansion?

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http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b..._returns_1.jpg



When the Obama's started to earn substantially more money beginning in 2005, they could afford to give a much larger percentage of their income to charity.

Why is that such a difficult concept to understand?
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Old 04-20-2009, 12:31 PM
 
Location: CO
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http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_b..._returns_1.jpg

When the Obama's started to earn substantially more money beginning in 2005, they could afford to give a much larger percentage of their income to charity.

Why is that such a difficult concept to understand?
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what year did they buy their mansion?
2005, according to Finding Obama in Chicago - Campaign Coverage '08
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Hyde Park , Obama’s current home, is about seven kilometers from downtown Chicago, the Loop. His wife grew up not to far from here. Their children were born and attend private school here. In 2005, Obama bought his house in Hyde Park.
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