Election Day: Anti-Gay Day? (democrat, liberal, bias, racism)

[karfar]

Originally Posted by hawkeye2009

I learned something new today. While not a pro gay marriage guy at all, I think it is very, very wrong to hire or fire someone due to thier sexual orientation, or really anything that is not job performance related. I really thought that practice was illegal everywhere in the US and am a little suprised by the information. Ignorance on my part.

Yeah, messed up hey? Yet people's religious affiliation are protected, which I agree w/as well but why that & not someone's sexual orientation?

[AnUnidentifiedMale]

Originally Posted by hawkeye2009

I learned something new today. While not a pro gay marriage guy at all, I think it is very, very wrong to hire or fire someone due to thier sexual orientation, or really anything that is not job performance related. I really thought that practice was illegal everywhere in the US and am a little suprised by the information. Ignorance on my part.

There've been a number of stories recently in gay news publications about this. Most Americans seem to believe that it's illegal to fire someone based on his or her sexual orientation. Unfortunately, it's still legal in most states.

ENDA (The Employment Non-Discrimination Act) has been introduced in every Congress, except the 109th, since 1994, albeit without gender identity protections, but gained its best chance at passing after the Democratic Party broke twelve years of Republican Congressional rule in the 2006 midterm elections. However, some sponsors believed that even with a Democratic majority, ENDA did not have enough votes to pass the House of Representatives with transgender inclusion, and dropped it from the bill, which passed and subsequently died in the Senate.

Employment Non-Discrimination Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Even if ENDA could have passed the House and Senate, George W. Bush always said he would have vetoed it, so it was a hopeless cause while he was President.

[Thaskateguy]

Originally Posted by karfar

True, which is why marriage should be for all regardless of their sexual orientation.

I've been married twice, and wouldn't wish my experince on a dog with an infected ear. But I have been jaded by the whole thing. Marriage is not a cure all, nor an end all. Just something else.

[karfar]

Originally Posted by Thaskateguy

I've been married twice, and wouldn't wish my experince on a dog with an infected ear. But I have been jaded by the whole thing. Marriage is not a cure all, nor an end all. Just something else.

LOL, yes it sounds like you've been jaded. But, it'd be nice for everyone to be able to go thru that experience.

[AnUnidentifiedMale]

Originally Posted by Thaskateguy

I've been married twice, and wouldn't wish my experince on a dog with an infected ear. But I have been jaded by the whole thing. Marriage is not a cure all, nor an end all. Just something else.

To me, it's more symbolic than anything else, but symbolism can't be discounted.

[e2ksj3]

It would seem that way. I don't understand why we have ballots to decide on someone else rights, since it doesn't directly impact 90% of the population. I mean, did we have a ballot initiative to allow for heterosexual marriage or interracial marriage? So why are we doing it now for LGBT community?

[diva360]

Originally Posted by hawkeye2009

I learned something new today. While not a pro gay marriage guy at all, I think it is very, very wrong to hire or fire someone due to thier sexual orientation, or really anything that is not job performance related. I really thought that practice was illegal everywhere in the US and am a little suprised by the information. Ignorance on my part.

I applaud you for this admission, hawkeye. It makes you seem more open-minded than you have appeared to be on other threads. I shared your ignorance about this particular thing, too. Thanks to my friends at CD for making me more well informed.

[Peggy Anne]

If they make gay marriage illegal, I HOPE all gay employers fire people for being straight. I wish we had more homosexuals to tell you the truth.

[noela]

Originally Posted by Peggy Anne

If they make gay marriage illegal, I HOPE all gay employers fire people for being straight. I wish we had more homosexuals to tell you the truth.

I sympathize with you

I couldn't care less what each church does about gay or straight marriage, but shouldn't the state cater to everyone's rights? Everyone's or no-one's. The current state of affairs, where a group of law-abiding tax-paying citizens are treated as lesser beings (the us vs. them dilemma some argue is pretty self-explanatory) is just untenable. And that shouldn't be subject to vote, at all. It's a matter of equal rights, one of the very basics of democracy.

[AnUnidentifiedMale]

About the Washington domestic partnership law, from the Seattle Times:

Levinson said the reject R-71 campaign is "anti-gay," and she pointed to the rhetoric being used by opponents, including a recent letter written by Sen. Val Stevens, a Republican from Arlington, that was posted on the Protect Marriage Web site.

"Are the homosexuals finally going to take control of our culture and push their depraved lifestyle on our children and families?!" the letter asked.

Local News | Wash. voters get final say on gay partnerships | Seattle Times Newspaper

I actually chuckled at the hysterical-sounding quote from the state Senator, but I have to ask Republicans: Why has your party become the home for the anti-gay crowd?