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Old 11-04-2009, 07:30 PM
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That is news. It was a smashing stunning defeat for a party that has so alienated its base- people like me- by doing nothing and bowing down to Hannity and Limbaugh- that we stayed home. And Harry Reid had better get something right- or we will stay home next year as well! Change I can believe in? Ain't seen any yet. Just a 3rd Bush term!

This is where the real civil was is. Within the Democrat party.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:32 PM
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It is pretty amazing to think about how that element of the right wing piled on in the 23rd Congressional District of New York. They must have been so sure that they were going to win and be able to proclaim some kind of victory on their principles of what it means to be a conservative. Oh well.
Oh they are already pumped about almost winning. This isn't going away.

These extremists are going to challenge moderate GOP members from Maine to San Diego....and they'll wind up splitting their ticket.

In all reality it would have been even better had Hoffman won. They would be attacking moderates even more so.
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:34 PM
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NJ and VA doesn't mean anything. State level elections. These Governors can't vote on national issues.

The winners are NY and Cali house seats. Two more house seats that the Democrats will have.

I assuming the Republicans want recognize the lost of two more house seats. The media is focusing on two Gov. elections that means nothing.
Ummm California was not a loss, it was a Democrat seat.

You ought to tell Rham Emanuel NJ and Va. governorships mean nothing. LOL

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Old 11-04-2009, 07:36 PM
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Oh they are already pumped about almost winning. This isn't going away.

These extremists are going to challenge moderate GOP members from Maine to San Diego....and they'll wind up splitting their ticket.

In all reality it would have been even better had Hoffman won. They would be attacking moderates even more so.
Yep, I was having similar thoughts. Plus, that district is going to disappear after the 2010 Census.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:52 PM
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Yep, I was having similar thoughts. Plus, that district is going to disappear after the 2010 Census.

Don't get too excited it is happening on your side too. The left wing of your party cannot stand the Blue dogs. They will either put up candidates against them or stay home. 40 seats could easily change hands in 2010.

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Old 11-04-2009, 09:19 PM
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Don't get too excited it is happening on your side too. The left wing of your party cannot stand the Blue dogs. They will either put up candidates against them or stay home. 40 seats could easily change hands in 2010.
I wasn't getting excited. I was just calmly voicing my opinion.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:28 PM
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I wasn't getting excited. I was just calmly voicing my opinion.

Ok, in any event I think the extremes in both parties are going to demand purity and it will be to the benefit of Republicans since there are more conservative Dems elected in conservative districts than liberal Republicans serving in liberal districts. Or put a less convoluted way, there are more conservative Dems that can be targeted by the liberals, than liberal Republicans who can be targeted by the conservatives.
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Ok, in any event I think the extremes in both parties are going to demand purity and it will be to the benefit of Republicans since there are more conservative Dems elected in conservative districts than liberal Republicans serving in liberal districts. Or put a less convoluted way, there are more conservative Dems that can be targeted by the liberals, than liberal Republicans who can be targeted by the conservatives.
We'll see. I sense that there's more rancor on the Republican side and a quest for purity in their candidates than there is on the Democratic side, but of course, you and I aren't looking at the landscape from the same vantage point.
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We'll see. I sense that there's more rancor on the Republican side and a quest for purity in their candidates than there is on the Democratic side, but of course, you and I aren't looking at the landscape from the same vantage point.

So true. What is your take on the Ca. governor race?
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Old 11-04-2009, 10:03 PM
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So true. What is your take on the Ca. governor race?
Not much of an opinion right now. I've really liked Schwarzenegger - I know I'm in the minority on that, however. I almost feel like California is a different country from the rest of the U.S., so it's not so easy to choose a candidate based on the political party alone.
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