Washington state blocks same-sex "marriage" (vote, legal, stats)

[Little-Acorn]

In the state of Washington, the Governor had signed a law months ago, saying that same-sex unions had all the rights of heterosexual marriages EXCEPT they couldn't call it a "marriage".

Yesterday that state had a similar ballot proposition to Maine's, asking if the people wanted to reject that ruling. The issue was voted down by a very slim margin, and the law was permitted to stand.

It's another nail in the coffin of gay "marriages". Nobody objects to a same-sex partner having hospital visitation rights, unwilled inheritance rights, etc. But there has been a lot of objection to gay advocates changing the fundamental definition of marriage.

Gay advocates have been trying for years to force people to accept their new definition of "marriage". At the same time, they have been insisting that all they wanted was the same rights as heterosexuals had in real marriages.

This Washington law reveals the gay advocates' longstanding lie: it GAVE them all the rights they were demanding. But they screamed and protested that it wasn't good enough. It's easy to see why: The law as it stands, blocks them from calling their unions "marriages", the way a law might block calling a table a chair.

Clearly, equal rights was NOT what they wanted. They wanted to force everyone to change the definition of marriage. And now the lid has been nailed a little tighter on the coffin of that lie.

[Antlered Chamataka]

It's not marriage. Period.

[okccowboy]

Originally Posted by Antlered Chamataka

It's not marriage. Period.

There is little difference in a heterosexual relationship and a homosexual relationship. 2 people loving each other, sharing life's challenges and triumps. Loving family, country. Working hard, paying their TAXES, being good members of their community. Sadly too many people buy into myths and out right lies. If you are so concerned about the sanctity of marriage how about BANNING DIVORCE? Last time I checked the divorce rate among heterosexuals was 53%. Stop blaming a small minority for the failures of heterosexual marriage.

[Upton]

Originally Posted by Little-Acorn

In the state of Washington, the Governor had signed a law months ago, saying that same-sex unions had all the rights of heterosexual marriages EXCEPT they couldn't call it a "marriage".

Yesterday that state had a similar ballot proposition to Maine's, asking if the people wanted to reject that ruling. The issue was voted down by a very slim margin, and the law was permitted to stand.

It's another nail in the coffin of gay "marriages". Nobody objects to a same-sex partner having hospital visitation rights, unwilled inheritance rights, etc. But there has been a lot of objection to gay advocates changing the fundamental definition of marriage.

Gay advocates have been trying for years to force people to accept their new definition of "marriage". At the same time, they have been insisting that all they wanted was the same rights as heterosexuals had in real marriages.

This Washington law reveals the gay advocates' longstanding lie: it GAVE them all the rights they were demanding. But they screamed and protested that it wasn't good enough. It's easy to see why: The law as it stands, blocks them from calling their unions "marriages", the way a law might block calling a table a chair.

Clearly, equal rights was NOT what they wanted. They wanted to force everyone to change the definition of marriage. And now the lid has been nailed a little tighter on the coffin of that lie.

The passage of R 71, should it come about, is a victory for gay rights supporters.

Maybe you ought to read a little bit about it before starting a thread..

Gay rights supporters hope R-71 lead holds | KOMO News - Seattle, Washington | News

[Antlered Chamataka]

Originally Posted by okccowboy

There is little difference in a heterosexual relationship and a homosexual relationship. 2 people loving each other, sharing life's challenges and triumps. Loving family, country. Working hard, paying their TAXES, being good members of their community. Sadly too many people buy into myths and out right lies. If you are so concerned about the sanctity of marriage how about BANNING DIVORCE? Last time I checked the divorce rate among heterosexuals was 53%. Stop blaming a small minority for the failures of heterosexual marriage.

We're talking fundamental definitions. Like male, female, book, pencil... let's not tamper with the definitions.

Divorce is off-topic

[bigskydude]

The survey revealed a high rate of legal divorce among homosexual couples in Sweden. Gay male couples were 50% more likely to divorce within an eight-year period than were heterosexuals; and lesbian couples were 167% more likely to divorce than heterosexual couples.

Divorce Rate in Same-Sex Partnerships In Sweden

[LuckyGem]

They want their relationships to be recognized as equal according the law by allowing them to marry and "equal to heterosexuals relationships" and the fact remains that most people see their relationships as invalid and abnormal. In a nation that allows people with intellectual disabilities to marry and not homosexuals must really say something about what the majority of Americans think of homosexuality.

[PurpleLove08]

Originally Posted by bigskydude

Divorce Rate in Same-Sex Partnerships In Sweden

And....your point?

[Reads2MUCH]

Originally Posted by okccowboy

There is little difference in a heterosexual relationship and a homosexual relationship. 2 people loving each other, sharing life's challenges and triumps. Loving family, country. Working hard, paying their TAXES, being good members of their community. Sadly too many people buy into myths and out right lies. If you are so concerned about the sanctity of marriage how about BANNING DIVORCE? Last time I checked the divorce rate among heterosexuals was 53%. Stop blaming a small minority for the failures of heterosexual marriage.

I'm sorry, but I have to say this. You went out of your way to point out the similarities, but neglected to mention what that very small difference is. But it's not that small a difference at all. One couple can create a child through sexual relations, the other couples can not, atleast not together. Other than that, you are right. The relationships are the same. And as far as the divorce rate goes, you have to understand that since there are far, far more hetero couples out there, the rate of separation would be higher. I mean come on, there are hardly any "married" couples of the homosexual orientation to compare any stats with because we still haven't managed to grant them the rights they deserve. Once we do, I gaurantee you they will have instances of divorce just as everyone else does. My good friends right next door are lesbians, and have been "married" for 8 years. And guess what, they separated last Friday when one called from work and said she was leaving the other. For all intents and purposes, they are getting a divorce. There is just no paperwork to go through, because their marriage wasn't recognized by the state. Gay people get divorced too, they just don't have to worry about all the red tape.

[LogicIsYourFriend]

You crazy people who get so uptight over a word. A word is just an arbitrary symbol. If it takes calling a gay marriage something else in order to get people to vote in favor of CIVIL RIGHTS, so be it.