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11-06-2009, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunny-Days90
Liberal sheep.
As in most liberals fall in line and follow the person in front of them. Just like the liberal leaders want them to do.
Put out the food for free and you wont have to think on your own, thats the liberal way.
Just like sheep, they will line up, won't have to think on their own and end up with a free meal in the end.
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Wait a second. I'm a "liberal" and I don't expect free food and what not. And if I'm not mistaken it was Clinton (a liberal) that orchestrated the lowest amount of people on welfare in 35 years. As for us being sheep, we're a lot more likely to vote out one of our own if he fails (see New Jersey governor race). Could you say the same about your party? 
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11-06-2009, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by LauraC
Uhhhhhh, no. The numbers say you're wrong.
"Among regular Fox News Channel viewers, 39% identified as Republican, 33% as Democrats and 22% as independents. Among regular CNN viewers, 51% identified as Democrats, 23% were independents and just 18% were Republicans. In short, Democrats comprise a larger share of the Fox News audience than Republicans do of CNN's audience."
With MSNBC it's 18% Republican, 45% Democrat, 27% Independent.
There's a chart on the link to the study:
Partisanship and Cable News Audiences - Pew Research Center
If you look at the chart, Fox has a better balanced audience than either CNN or MSNBC so you could say the Democrat sheep are watching CNN and MSNBC. 
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Okay, it's a given FOX has more viewers than MSNBC, CNN, etc by a wide margin. So based off of numbers more republicans watch FOX than do people (particularly Democrats) watch MSNBC and CNN. Me thinks I figured out who the true sheep are 
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11-06-2009, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by twista6002
Wait a second. I'm a "liberal" and I don't expect free food and what not. And if I'm not mistaken it was Clinton (a liberal) that orchestrated the lowest amount of people on welfare in 35 years. As for us being sheep, we're a lot more likely to vote out one of our own if he fails (see New Jersey governor race). Could you say the same about your party? 
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Please do a bit of research/googling OR don't be so blatantly revisionistic.
Clinton (the ultimate sneaky politician) pushed for welfare reform in 1992 when campaigning. Then he switched and sided with status-quo-liberals as soon as he took office. But when it became inescapably clear that the public REALLY wanted welfare reform, and as Republicans took control of cogress and actually PRODUCED some welfare-reform legislation, Clinton grudgingly signed it in 1996. Three months before the election...........Hmmmmm....... LOL
(But not before he vetoed it the first two times it came to his desk...........ooops!)
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11-06-2009, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by twista6002
Okay, it's a given FOX has more viewers than MSNBC, CNN, etc by a wide margin. So based off of numbers more republicans watch FOX than do people (particularly Democrats) watch MSNBC and CNN. Me thinks I figured out who the true sheep are 
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You don't get it. It's the balance of viewer type that's better at Fox News compared to the other two cable news networks. The percents of Democrats, Republicans, Independents are closer together for the Fox News audience than they are for the other two cable networks.
And remember, viewers don't necessarily equal fans. That's why the White House brouhaha with Fox News is so silly. Yes, it's immature for the White House to act that way but it's also bad business for the White House to do it when Fox News has both the largest number of viewers and the most diverse, political-party wise.
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11-06-2009, 01:28 PM
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Do Not Steal, the socialists hate competition
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Originally Posted by twista6002
Wait a second. I'm a "liberal" and I don't expect free food and what not. And if I'm not mistaken it was Clinton (a liberal) that orchestrated the lowest amount of people on welfare in 35 years. As for us being sheep, we're a lot more likely to vote out one of our own if he fails (see New Jersey governor race). Could you say the same about your party? 
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Yes, Bill Clinton did what Repubs and Dems couldn't do... he made welfare better!! (it was his last term and he wasn't going to lose his political office for doing the right thing) I give kudos to Clinton for doing it right (albeit a lot of liberals are upset about it, you do realize that right?)...
As for the Corzine election... GIVE ME A BREAK... you wanted to vote him out of office? Excuse me, am I hearing this right? 44% of votes WENT TO CORZINE... pretty much all of them are liberals... what pushed it to the Repubs were the repubs + the independents... you didn't vote him out office, you wanted him to stay (and so did Obama and MANY political democrats, in case, you forgot)... 
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11-06-2009, 02:27 PM
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1/20/09 Destruction of US - Proceeding as planned
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Originally Posted by twista6002
I got a question: conservatives are endlessly calling liberals "sheep". Well it just so happens the conservative network FOX is the most watched political channel by a wide margin (including during the 2008 election). So unless people are watching FOX strictly for entertainment, wouldn't that make conservatives "Sheep" since liberals don't watch TV and that conservatives need to be told how to vote on TV?
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You will find the demographic of those who watch FOX NEWS is diverse. Their viewers include democrats and liberals and it is just a fact that on those opinion/commentary shows, they have more democrats and liberals than any other cable show. You will not see conservatives on maddow or dobermann.
Wake Up Call: CNN’s Election Coverage Finishes Fourth | TV | Mediaite
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FNC: 4,043,000 in total viewers (1,130,000 in A25-54)
MSNBC: 974,000 in total viewers (308,000 in A25-54)
HLN: 842,000 in total viewers (341,000 in A25-54)
CNN: 826,000 in total viewers (227,000 in A25-54)
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Huge numbers for FOX NEWS.
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CNN’s 4th place finish last night was only made more glaring because last year’s election coverage on the network was their best night of all time. They didn’t just have more viewers than every other cable news network last year – it was the most of all time.
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11-06-2009, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by sanrene
You will find the demographic of those who watch FOX NEWS is diverse. Their viewers include democrats and liberals and it is just a fact that on those opinion/commentary shows, they have more democrats and liberals than any other cable show. You will not see conservatives on maddow or dobermann.
Wake Up Call: CNN’s Election Coverage Finishes Fourth | TV | Mediaite
Huge numbers for FOX NEWS.
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Headline News beat CNN! Ouch!
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11-08-2009, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by LauraC
You don't get it. It's the balance of viewer type that's better at Fox News compared to the other two cable news networks. The percents of Democrats, Republicans, Independents are closer together for the Fox News audience than they are for the other two cable networks.
And remember, viewers don't necessarily equal fans. That's why the White House brouhaha with Fox News is so silly. Yes, it's immature for the White House to act that way but it's also bad business for the White House to do it when Fox News has both the largest number of viewers and the most diverse, political-party wise.
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I'm not questioning the diversity of FOX viewers. But just based off of numbers looking at the ratings there are more Republicans that watch FOX than total viewers of CNN. Doesn't that tell you something? 
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11-08-2009, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by evilnewbie
Yes, Bill Clinton did what Repubs and Dems couldn't do... he made welfare better!! (it was his last term and he wasn't going to lose his political office for doing the right thing) I give kudos to Clinton for doing it right (albeit a lot of liberals are upset about it, you do realize that right?)...
As for the Corzine election... GIVE ME A BREAK... you wanted to vote him out of office? Excuse me, am I hearing this right? 44% of votes WENT TO CORZINE... pretty much all of them are liberals... what pushed it to the Repubs were the repubs + the independents... you didn't vote him out office, you wanted him to stay (and so did Obama and MANY political democrats, in case, you forgot)... 
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Didn't realize you knew me well enough to know how I voted even though I thought I voted differently. Whatever  . I can send you a digital copy of my absentee ballot if you wish. And there were thousands of us who were disappointed in Obama endorsed Corzine. It was a partisan thing. It'd look really crappy on the Democrat part if they lost in a blue state like Jersey. He mustered a few votes he could get for him. Considering Corzine received 53% of the vote just 4 years ago, I'd say "liberals" thought with their heads, not party lines, especially considering there are just a hair over 1,000,000 registered Republicans in the state (about 32% of the state's registered voters).
Be honest, could you picture that happening in a red state with a Republican governor? 
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