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Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale
Such drama - and not even correct.
Democrats haven't "lost the Senate". You'll notice that the majority leader is still a Democrat.
Neither Reagan nor Clinton were fortunate enough to have their own parties in control of the Senate, and they both sailed to reelection. In fact, Reagan's approval rating was down to about 40% in 1983 and yet, he almost won a unanimous electoral vote victory the following year.
The predictions of Obama's demise are premature.
Reagan was a much more effective leader than Obama is. Americans like a strong tough leader even if they don't agree with him. People admired Reagan because he was tough no non sense and he told the Democrats "this is they way it is going to be" and made them tow his line. Obama has not shown the fortitude it takes to be a leader.
Democrats haven't "lost the Senate". You'll notice that the majority leader is still a Democrat.
Neither Reagan nor Clinton were fortunate enough to have their own parties in control of the Senate, and they both sailed to reelection. In fact, Reagan's approval rating was down to about 40% in 1983 and yet, he almost won a unanimous electoral vote victory the following year.
The predictions of Obama's demise are premature.
While I do admire the fact that you are fairly objective, you have to admit that 0-3 is not a good record thus far. If he goes to Nevada to campaign for Reid, and Reid loses, which he will, no politician will want Obama near him. That's a far cry from a year ago, when people were literally crying at the mention or sight of him.
Reagan was a much more effective leader than Obama is. Americans like a strong tough leader even if they don't agree with him. People admired Reagan because he was tough no non sense and he told the Democrats "this is they way it is going to be" and made them tow his line. Obama has not shown the fortitude it takes to be a leader.
Yes Kev, but what you fail to realize is that the American people were behind Reagan's ideas. The overwhelming majority of Americans are against Obama's healthcare and the democratic politicians know this and are really fearful that what just happened in Mass will happen to them. Look what just happened to Ben Nelson; he was bribed into signing the bill (some change there huh?) and he was booed out of an Italian restaurant in Omaha, by the people that he gave a sweetheart deal to. Even the recipients of this graft don't want it.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by AnUnidentifiedMale
Then how did Reagan's approval rating go down to 40%?
Because of the deep recession the country was in during the first 2 years he was in office. Reagan seemed strong. He made people feel like "we have somebody in charge". Obama does not make me feel that way. I wish he did but so far I don't.
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Originally Posted by Sonrise
Yes Kev, but what you fail to realize is that the American people were behind Reagan's ideas. The overwhelming majority of Americans are against Obama's healthcare and the democratic politicians know this and are really fearful that what just happened in Mass will happen to them. Look what just happened to Ben Nelson; he was bribed into signing the bill (some change there huh?) and he was booed out of an Italian restaurant in Omaha, by the people that he gave a sweetheart deal to. Even the recipients of this graft don't want it.
The American people WANT universal health care. If they didn't we would not have Medicare. They want Medicare for all Americans or at least a public private choice. Do they want the mess THIS bill has become? No. Hell no.
While I do admire the fact that you are fairly objective, you have to admit that 0-3 is not a good record thus far.
The last Rasmussen poll showed that 60% of likely voters in Massachusetts approved of Obama, so I don't think this was a rebuke of the President. Normally, I wouldn't cite Rasmussen, but since they usually make Republicans look good, I think this is a significant number.
Presidents can only do so much to help poor candidates. For example, Bush campaigned for Suzy Terrell in Louisiana when everyone said that Mary Landrieu was vulnerable; Terrell lost.
While I do admire the fact that you are fairly objective, you have to admit that 0-3 is not a good record thus far. If he goes to Nevada to campaign for Reid, and Reid loses, which he will, no politician will want Obama near him. That's a far cry from a year ago, when people were literally crying at the mention or sight of him.
None of the losses can be traced to Obama campaigning for them. All three were behind in the polls when Obama went to visit. Hell in Virginia and New Jersey the exit polls showed the voters approved of Obama. He was around 57% in NJ & 53% in VA.
Because of the deep recession the country was in during the first 2 years he was in office. Reagan seemed strong. He made people feel like "we have somebody in charge". Obama does not make me feel that way. I wish he did but so far I don't.
That doesn't make sense. If people felt that way about Reagan, his approval rating wouldn't have dropped to 40%.
Things can change quickly. Obama may look weak right now, but there's really no way to know how things will look in a month or two. It could be even worse, yes, but it could also be better.
The American people WANT universal health care. If they didn't, we wouldn't have Medicare.
Don't confuse compassion with socialism.
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