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Old 05-07-2010, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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How do you decide which one is more accurate?
A conglomeration of polls.

Most don't ask the question about reelection, but I believe this is the fourth one to ask that question, with surprising results.
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Old 05-07-2010, 05:50 AM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Are 39% of Americans that stupid?
Many of those who were stupid the first time learned their lesson.

He is a lame duck and cannot be trusted as most of us knew from the beginning.

We would even take Jimmy Carter over this epic loser.

We all learn from our mistakes. My only hope Obama does not destroy us so bad with his Alinsky Marxist scams that we can recover.
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:33 AM
 
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Gallup isn't the only poll.
Especially, when it doesn't give numbers we want to see, eh?
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:36 AM
 
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How do you decide which one is more accurate?
DUH! The one most negative toward Obama!! Of course.

HELLO!!!!????
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:39 AM
 
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DUH! The one most negative toward Obama!! Of course.

HELLO!!!!????
No need to be snarky. I'm interested in Sanrene's method for determining the accuracy of any particular poll.
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:41 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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How do you decide which one is more accurate?
Are you serious

The one thats closest the most on election day. The one that has a history of being close is the most accurate. All polls are going to be off a couple points its about which one is the closest the most

Rasmussen is one of those polls
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:45 AM
 
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No need to be snarky. I'm interested in Sanrene's method for determining the accuracy of any particular poll.
I told you.

The more negative, the more accurate and less of an agenda attached. A poll has an agenda if it reflects more positive numbers.

ROFL
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:58 AM
 
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Oh, for goodness sake! I am well aware of Sanrene's negative views of the Obama administration and the Democratic party as a whole, and as such he is predisposed to give more weight to any poll that reflects his take on things. That said, there are several polls going on right now that show very different numbers, and I'm simply asking him to describe the criteria he uses evaluate them, not that I expect him to admit the truth.

I take polls with a grain of salt because I don't think a truly random sample exists. Most people who participate have an ax to grind. (You can see that represented right here on the Politics forum where the moderate position is dramatically underrepresented.) There is really no way to know what will happen in the next six months. Both parties have recently lost high-profile members, and an event of national significance could change things quickly.

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Old 05-07-2010, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Especially, when it doesn't give numbers we want to see, eh?
It will, it will, give it time.

Gallup.Com - Daily News, Polls, Public Opinion on Government, Politics, Economics, Management

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Oh, for goodness sake! I am well aware of Sanrene's negative views of the Obama administration and the Democratic party as a whole, and as such he is predisposed to give more weight to any poll that reflects his take on things. That said, there are several polls going on right now that show very different numbers, and I'm simply asking him to describe the criteria he uses evaluate them, not that I expect him to admit the truth.
The pollsters listed at RCP or 538 - they all have credibility....except when they weight the sample too much toward the democrats, which a few of them do on a consistent basis.

For example, the latest ABC/ WaPo poll, had a partisan gap between Ds and Rs of 11 points. Now, NO ONE has a party ID that large anymore. Of course, that kind of sample will naturally skew the results - favorable to the Dems.

Btw, I'm not a HE.
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Old 05-07-2010, 11:32 AM
 
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I love polls! Supposedly Hillary was going to win! Ahem.....
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