Reality check for Teabaggers: Democrats have now won 10 straight special elections.. (security, campaign)

[Randomstudent]

Originally Posted by nmnita

Yes, and almost 1/2 were in 2008 and 7 out of 10 were democrats replacing democrats in democratic districts. If I am not mistaken, a Republican who was strongly behind the Tea Party just cleaned house in Ky or am I just imagining that?

Actually in the grand scheme of things he did pretty poorly. He destroyed the republican primary, but received less votes then either major democratic primary candidate.

Jack Conway 228,532
Dan Mongiardo 224,989
Rand Paul 206,812

KY - Election Results

[ringwise]

Originally Posted by Upton

Six were after Obama became president. The races in italics were elections that according to the media were supposed to be referendums on his leadership..

Reality Check: Democrats Continue House Special-Election Streak « The Harvard Political Review

Oopsie - have to hit the reset button for January 19, 2010 where Scott Brown (R) beat Martha Coakley.

Most of those victories were before the Dems started going "tax and spend" on the Hill, and the American people starting waking up to the scumbags that are ruling the US.

So make that one straight.

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by Upton

Sure Nita..that incumbent stuff worked real well for Bush #1 in '92 didn't it?

Republicans back in '94, much like today, were crowing that Clinton was going to be a one term president. Polls actually backed them up..

So what happened between '94 and '96? A GOP Congress is what happened. Remember when they tried to shut down the government in '95 because of a budget disagreement with the president?

The American public sided with Bill Clinton...much the same will happen if the Republicans take control of Congress this time. You can then resign yourself to a two term President Obama.

Americans take their anger out on the party that they see in power...and they don't care which side it is...I shouldn't have to remind you of that.

I am not so niave as some to even predict what will happen in 2012. Only someone that can't see in front of their face would do that, as I have said over and over, 2 plus years is a long time. Yes, we can give examples of incumants that were outsted but it is rare, Bush was one, Carter another and Johnson had brains enough not to put himself through it. As for Bush in 92, are you forgetting the name Perot? If he hadn't decided to be a spoiler, the entire thing would not have turned out the way it did. By the way, the congress trying to shut down the government, guess what? That happens often. It happened during the first Reagan administration as well. My husband was very much involved (no he wasn't part of wanting to shut it down and no, he wasn't an elected official) He would have been affected by it though.

NIta

[nmnita]

Originally Posted by Randomstudent

Actually in the grand scheme of things he did pretty poorly. He destroyed the republican primary, but received less votes then either major democratic primary candidate.

Jack Conway 228,532
Dan Mongiardo 224,989
Rand Paul 206,812

KY - Election Results

and we will all be watching in Novemeber.

Nita

[Smash255]

Originally Posted by nmnita

I am not so niave as some to even predict what will happen in 2012. Only someone that can't see in front of their face would do that, as I have said over and over, 2 plus years is a long time. Yes, we can give examples of incumants that were outsted but it is rare, Bush was one, Carter another and Johnson had brains enough not to put himself through it. As for Bush in 92, are you forgetting the name Perot? If he hadn't decided to be a spoiler, the entire thing would not have turned out the way it did. By the way, the congress trying to shut down the government, guess what? That happens often. It happened during the first Reagan administration as well. My husband was very much involved (no he wasn't part of wanting to shut it down and no, he wasn't an elected official) He would have been affected by it though.

NIta

Virtually every analysis on the 92 race, was that Perot had a minimal effect. He took slightly more votes from Bush than Clinton, but not nearly enough to have any type of impact other than perhaps one or two states.

[sanrene]

LA-6: Don Cazayoux (D) replaces Richard Baker (R), May 2008 (though Cazayoux lost the general election in November)
MS-1: Travis Childers (D) replaces Roger Wicker (R), May 2008
MD-4: Donna Edwards (D) replaces Albert Wynn (D), June 2008
OH-11: Marcia Fudge (D) replaces Stephanie Tubbs Jones (D), November 2008
NY-20: Scott Murphy (D) replaces Kirsten Gillibrand (D), March 2009
IL-5: Mike Quigley (D) replaces Rahm Emanuel (D), April 2009
CA-32: Judy Chu (D) replaces Hilda Solis (D), July 2009
CA-10: John Garamendi (D) replaces Ellen Tauscher (D), November 2009
NY-23: Bill Owens (D) replaces John McHugh (R), November 2009
PA-12: Mark Critz (D) replaces John Murtha (D), May 2010

LA-6 - Republican won the seat in Nov. Moot point.

MD,OH,NY,IL,CA-32,CA-10 All heavy dem districts

NY-23 - Split vote on Rs

PA-12 - democrat/union district. 62% of voters are registered democrats. 34% republicans, 4% Indies. This is not the kind of district that the republicans have a good shot at turning in Nov. Bush didn't win this district in 2000 or 2004.

Surely you guy don't think the Rs are expected to win in heavy dem/left-wing districts do you?

[Sophiasmommy]

Originally Posted by Upton

Six were after Obama became president. The races in italics were elections that according to the media were supposed to be referendums on his leadership..

Reality Check: Democrats Continue House Special-Election Streak « The Harvard Political Review

Critz is pro-life, pro 2nd amendment, pro coal, pro drilling for oil, vocally adamant in his opposition to Obamacare, the bailout and cap and trade. He's pretty much a Tea Party Democrat; I'm pretty sure conservatives are okay with that. lol

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by Sophiasmommy

Critz is pro-life, pro 2nd amendment, pro coal, pro drilling for oil, vocally adamant in his opposition to Obamacare, the bailout and cap and trade. He's pretty much a Tea Party Democrat; I'm pretty sure conservatives are okay with that. lol

Pro "clean coal", as is Obama. Pro drilling in Pennsylvania. I didn't see anything on his website that said he was opposed to Obamacare.

[sanrene]

Originally Posted by Katiana

Pro "clean coal", as is Obama. Pro drilling in Pennsylvania. I didn't see anything on his website that said he was opposed to Obamacare.

You weren't paying attention to the campaign then. He said he would have voted against obamacare and C&T.

[Katiana]

Originally Posted by sanrene

You weren't paying attention to the campaign then. He said he would have voted against obamacare and C&T.

Strange you're following campaigns in Pennsylvania. Just sayin'.

One Win Is Altering Parties' Calculus - WSJ.com

Mr. Critz called himself "pro-life" and "pro-gun,'' and said he wouldn't have voted for the health-care overhaul—though he declined to call for its repeal.