Did the nineties never end? (2001, electronic, dance, hip-hop)

[nat_at772]

Originally Posted by Randomdude

If you are talking about the movie "Ted", thats not Teddy Ruxpin.

According to Seth Mcfarlane Ruxpin was the inspiration behind the script but they opted to make him a regular teddy bear due some other issues. He said he was watching one of those VH1 I love the whatever decade shows and they talked about Teddy Ruxpin and he thought "what if Ted was a jerk". I'm paraphrasing but that was the gist of it, I saw him on one of the late night shows. SN up until that point I always thought Seth McFar was Seth Green.

[rstevens62]

I have noticed this too, if you look back of recordings of tv shows and commercials from say 1993 on, the way people dressed, their hairstyles, popular catch phrases, etc are pretty darn close to the times we live in today, in fact someone dressed exactly like someone did in 1993/94, clothes, hairstyle, shoes, jewelry, etc, could walk down the street in 2013 and would not look out of place at all...yet it is a 20 yr time span..strange???

but if you tried the same thing, say in 1986, dress someone up in clothes, hair, jewelry, shoes from 1966, they would surely get looks walking down the street!!!

I think in these times we live in, people are sort of stuck on a plateau, especially in hairstyles, I have watched recorded tv from early to mid 90s and those same hairstyles would easily pass today from someone wearing them and not be considered retro or strange at all. Geez, it is 2013 now and styles havent changed much in over 20 yrs..??? what the hell is wrong?

[football45013]

Originally Posted by kelsius

Do you think the 2000s and the part of the '10s that has past are culturally distinct from the 1990s? Personally I think we're still in the nineties in a cultural sense and here is why.

I agree and I think it's because of not only the reasons you mentioned but also the fact that the technological leap from the 90's until now has not been as big compared to other decades from one to the next. For example, I graduated from high school in 1999 and there were quite a few students who had in my class who had cell phones. Also, the Internet was around and DVD's were out. Of course, these things are all a lot better now, but the fact that I grew up with them and have been around these things since my teenage years makes it seem as though the leap from the 90's to the 00's wasn't that much of a difference.

Originally Posted by kelsius

I was thinking how the major tropes of the nineties, the things that made the nineties different from the eighties, for the most part are still going strong, and in some cases are actually even bigger today, 12 years after the end of the nineties, than they were in the nineties themselves

Examples. Baggy pants. Skinny jeans have replaced them to some extent, but there's still plenty of people who sag like it's still 1992, people who weren't even alive in 1992.!.

I work in a high school and I can confirm that the baggy pants thing is just as prevelant today as it is when I was in high school in the late 90's. It's amazing that it's still around.

Originally Posted by kelsius

Rap music has proven not to be a trend but a decades-long, multi-generational phenomenon that might enjoy extremely high levels of popularity well into this century. Same with tattoos and body piercings - not going away anytime soon most likely, if anything eventually it will probably become rare for a person not to have at least one kind of body mod. Even my 52 year old dad has been converted to the cult of the tattoo.

And many of the same rappers and bands that I listened to as a teen in the late 90's are still going strong today. Jay Z, Ludacris, Eminim, they're all still around and still putting out stuff. Same with some other bands, ie: Blink 182, Buckcherry, Godsmack, Korn, etc.

[stressedCollegeGirl89]

I wish the early 90's grunge/indie rock never ended

[No_Recess]

I think the world was much "smaller" back in the 90s. Especially the early 90s. Obviously the Internet is the reason for this. The way sports, entertainment, and news was presented to people came through a very narrow lens compared to today. This is a continuous trend through history though as technology goes on and on. For example, I think The Beatles 1964 performance on Ed Sullivan is still one of the top ten most watched shows of all time. I don't even know who people consider to be the biggest band/singer/rapper/whatever of the last 10 or so years but their "share" of owning the stage pales in comparison to the acts of the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s.

[Emman85]

Originally Posted by rstevens62

I have noticed this too, if you look back of recordings of tv shows and commercials from say 1993 on, the way people dressed, their hairstyles, popular catch phrases, etc are pretty darn close to the times we live in today, in fact someone dressed exactly like someone did in 1993/94, clothes, hairstyle, shoes, jewelry, etc, could walk down the street in 2013 and would not look out of place at all...yet it is a 20 yr time span..strange???

but if you tried the same thing, say in 1986, dress someone up in clothes, hair, jewelry, shoes from 1966, they would surely get looks walking down the street!!!

I think in these times we live in, people are sort of stuck on a plateau, especially in hairstyles, I have watched recorded tv from early to mid 90s and those same hairstyles would easily pass today from someone wearing them and not be considered retro or strange at all. Geez, it is 2013 now and styles havent changed much in over 20 yrs..??? what the hell is wrong?

I think you need to take a look at these pics

from 1993





from 2010(which is more contemporary in style)




Pretty distinguishable to me, 1993 was still largely in a late '80s holdover in fashion terms, many women still wore big, frizzy hair with cartoonish patterns on clothes, high hop fades on black guys, baggy overalls, ect.
It was a more relaxed aesthetic back than.

Late '00s/early '10s styles is more emo-ish side bangs, flatter hair, tighter fitting clothes for both sexes, skinny jeans. Also there was a period in the late '90s/early '00s where women wore darker makeup, wore bootcut jeans and crop tops but that "millennial" period is harder to distinguish from today but '92/'93 is still pretty different from say '03 even.

[Roger Sterling]

There seem to be a lot of people on this site who say the 90's are just like today culturally and I really don't see it. Almost feels like a shallow attempt to somehow belittle the decade and the people who grew up in it to make their decade seem better (usually people who grew up in the 80's). The decade ended 14 years ago and it's influence imo pretty much stopped by '04 or '05. Look at an episode of Seinfeld or Friends from the 90's and tell me a 10 year old could confuse it with being a recent show, even shows from the early 2000's have that dated and old feel to them. Today's TV market is more about reality shows and get famous quick "celebrities" like the Kardashians and all that didn't start until the early 2000's with Survivor and Paris Hilton. 3D movies are huge specifically superhero movies which weren't nearly as big in the 90's (thanks Joel Schumacher)

Plus kids tv is much different, lack of traditionally drawn cartoons (other than Spongebob which started in the 90's) CGI cartoons dominate, preteen shows are bigger usually focusing on a teen girl, kid characters are more obnoxious and disrespectful to parents, lack of fad shows (Power Rangers, Ninja Turtles, superhero cartoons) internet culture is the predominate culture among young people wasn't the case even 10 years ago, no skinny jeans, facebook, twitter, text speak, YouTube, etc. And more.

So no today isn't like the 90's.

[thetroof]

Originally Posted by Roger Sterling

There seem to be a lot of people on this site who say the 90's are just like today culturally and I really don't see it. Almost feels like a shallow attempt to somehow belittle the decade and the people who grew up in it to make their decade seem better (usually people who grew up in the 80's). The decade ended 14 years ago and it's influence imo pretty much stopped by '04 or '05. Look at an episode of Seinfeld or Friends from the 90's and tell me a 10 year old could confuse it with being a recent show, even shows from the early 2000's have that dated and old feel to them. Today's TV market is more about reality shows and get famous quick "celebrities" like the Kardashians and all that didn't start until the early 2000's with Survivor and Paris Hilton. 3D movies are huge specifically superhero movies which weren't nearly as big in the 90's (thanks Joel Schumacher)

Plus kids tv is much different, lack of traditionally drawn cartoons (other than Spongebob which started in the 90's) CGI cartoons dominate, preteen shows are bigger usually focusing on a teen girl, kid characters are more obnoxious and disrespectful to parents, lack of fad shows (Power Rangers, Ninja Turtles, superhero cartoons) internet culture is the predominate culture among young people wasn't the case even 10 years ago, no skinny jeans, facebook, twitter, text speak, YouTube, etc. And more.

So no today isn't like the 90's.

Almost everything you mentioned is Internet/technology based. Don't forget American Online and AIM still existed so conversing online did exist.

I actually caught an episode of Friends while running at the gym the other day. Looked just like today. Same issues and lingo

The first couple pages of this thread hit on the main issues like mentality and actual life.


IMO. I tend to agree not much has changed since the late 90's. If someone from 1999 was teleported, they wouldn't stick out.

Facebook is actually declining in this country and twitter is used by even less. Skinny jeans? What kind of homo actually wears those? Yes no one wears bagging jeans any longer but I see more people wearing cargo shorts than skinny jeans. Then again this is where regions come into play, here in Southern California good weather allows people to wear shorts year round

Music and television is just awful these days. Thankfully technology allows us to view and listen to music from outside this country.

[Roger Sterling]

Originally Posted by thetroof

Almost everything you mentioned is Internet/technology based. Don't forget American Online and AIM still existed so conversing online did exist.

I actually caught an episode of Friends while running at the gym the other day. Looked just like today. Same issues and lingo

The first couple pages of this thread hit on the main issues like mentality and actual life.


IMO. I tend to agree not much has changed since the late 90's. If someone from 1999 was teleported, they wouldn't stick out.

Facebook is actually declining in this country and twitter is used by even less. Skinny jeans? What kind of homo actually wears those? Yes no one wears bagging jeans any longer but I see more people wearing cargo shorts than skinny jeans. Then again this is where regions come into play, here in Southern California good weather allows people to wear shorts year round

Music and television is just awful these days. Thankfully technology allows us to view and listen to music from outside this country.

Yeah conversing online existed but it wasn't anywhere near as popular as it is now, but that's not really a good comparison imo. That's like saying tv existed in the 50's so 50's culture is like today's, there are millions of people who are practically addicted to checking their facebook, twitter, email, texts, etc. That wasn't the case in the 90's. And no someone from 1999 probably wouldn't stick out from today but guess what neither would a casually dressed person from the 50's or early 60's. I watch Leave it to Beaver and if you saw someone dressed like Wally or Beaver you wouldn't do a double take.

Most decades didn't have tacky, loud, flamboyant clothes and hairstyles the only time periods that did was the late 60's to early 90's. But that doesn't mean there aren't small noticeable differences in the way people dressed in the past and now. I can easily tell if a show is from the late 90's/early 2000's just by the way a character is dressed, and trust me there is a difference between then and now. It's just not as in your face as past decades.

[UTHORNS96]

Lol, the 90s is NOTHING like today. That's an insult to the 90s.