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The 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s all had distinct styles unmistakable for any other time, aside of course from a few years into a bordering decade. The 00s and 10s though, not so much? The only difference I notice is the 00s still had a lot more of the 90s left over, and weren't as influenced by the 80s which have made a partial comeback as 80s teens are now the current middle aged people.
Do you think the entire first 1/3 of the 21st century will more or less be similar to today? 2012 isn't hugely different from 2002 and it's hard to imagine 2022 being that different from now.
Do you think the 21st century won't be changeful enough you can tell what decade it is by the fashion, maybe just if it's early, mid or late 21st century?
It's just early. I'd say the 00's were psychologically defined by September eleventh, the war on terror, and Iraq + Afghanistan/Pakistan. The current age started a little early with the economic crisis, like the thirties actually started in 1929, and the political and economic instability of our time represents a major shift in the zeitgeist. I'm certain it will manifest in some sort of distinct style and its impact will be felt in our art.
It's just early. I'd say the 00's were psychologically defined by September eleventh, the war on terror, and Iraq + Afghanistan/Pakistan. The current age started a little early with the economic crisis, like the thirties actually started in 1929, and the political and economic instability of our time represents a major shift in the zeitgeist. I'm certain it will manifest in some sort of distinct style and its impact will be felt in our art.
True but that's world events, not pop culture. I wasn't there, but from what I can tell based on music and movies, the 1930s and 1940s essentially had the same pop culture as the 1920s, but with different world events. I think the 2000s and 2010s are the same with regards to the 1990s, essentially we have had a watered down version of 1990s pop culture since the year 2000 began but the 2000s and 2010s have been distinct in terms of their events.
The 1950s, 1960s, 1970s and 1980s all had world events and popular culture that were unmistakably products of those decades alone. Though then again, the 1960s were an awful lot like the '50s until the year 1963, so there's still a small chance the 2010s could become a unique decade pop culture wise if fashion, music, etc changes dramatically within the next one or two years. But I think it's more likely that the years from about 1992 to maybe the early 2020s will become remembered as a distinct bloc when it comes to pop culture, fashion and society.
Although, I do think there are some small changes between the 2000s and 2010s, like say if you are compared 2012 to 2002, I'd say the music and fashion today is definitely more flashy and colourful and resembles the 1980s more in some ways. And yeah, the 'current' feeling began well before January 1, 2010, probably by 2008 if not as early as 2006.
Eh, I still think pop culture reflects the mood of the age. Thirties pop culture was almost saccharine compared to the twenties to help people deal with the awful reality of the depression. People wanted to be cheered up and had no appetite for darkness. The fifties was about an exaggerated return to normalcy and prosperity after decades of war and depression, the sixties everyone understands already, the eighties were about ostentatious consumerism and "success" coming into vogue, and I suspect this decade will reflect our collective feelings as well.
I think you need a few years out to observe the difference. In my opinion when you look back at the 00's you'll see how internet culture defined the decade. Music and technology grew together, exposing people to a wider variety than the average person saw in decades past. The 00's had quite a few new musical styles evolve based on tech including the mash-up and auto-tune. There was an increase in people being famous just because they were famous; the reality show and post reality show area where we went from the average person building a fire on an island to following around the pseudo-famous during their day.
The 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s all had distinct styles unmistakable for any other time, aside of course from a few years into a bordering decade. The 00s and 10s though, not so much? The only difference I notice is the 00s still had a lot more of the 90s left over, and weren't as influenced by the 80s which have made a partial comeback as 80s teens are now the current middle aged people.
Do you think the entire first 1/3 of the 21st century will more or less be similar to today? 2012 isn't hugely different from 2002 and it's hard to imagine 2022 being that different from now.
Do you think the 21st century won't be changeful enough you can tell what decade it is by the fashion, maybe just if it's early, mid or late 21st century?
I don't really agree with this, it seems somewhat inaccurate, the 2000s did have kind of a distinct pop culture but it was just a bit more fragmented(along with the '90s) than say the late '60s/'70s or '80s. That was the decade of reality tv, dirty south rap, autotune, emo, and social media. I think the appearance of continuity might be due to fewer new subcultures emerging from the '90s and '00s(besides the hipster subculture in the late '00s). You say the '90s had a distinct pop culture but a lot of people have a very hard time pining down that decade's identity because it has so many different trends going on at the same time but none really dominating, the '90s and '00s are partially defined by their variety.
This idea has been brought up by Kurt Andersen but his article is full of ****, a lot of people downplay the evolution of hip-hop through the '90s, '00s, and today too(it's no coincidence that it's mostly white males spouting this kind of stuff). It really depends on perspective, I've heard many, many people say the 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s each had pretty distinctive trends and culture and for me personally I will always associate the "00s sound" with loud, trunk rattling southern rap/crunk and autotuned vocals.
In the future(in the US of course) I think many will define the early 2010s by the mainstream explosion of many kinds of electronic dance music styles, the wubble bass sounds of dubstep are a sure date stamp to 2011/2012 too.
I don't really agree with this, it seems somewhat inaccurate, the 2000s did have kind of a distinct pop culture but it was just a bit more fragmented(along with the '90s) than say the late '60s/'70s or '80s. That was the decade of reality tv, dirty south rap, autotune, emo, and social media. I think the appearance of continuity might be due to fewer new subcultures emerging from the '90s and '00s(besides the hipster subculture in the late '00s). You say the '90s had a distinct pop culture but a lot of people have a very hard time pining down that decade's identity because it has so many different trends going on at the same time but none really dominating, the '90s and '00s are partially defined by their variety.
This idea has been brought up by Kurt Andersen but his article is full of ****, a lot of people downplay the evolution of hip-hop through the '90s, '00s, and today too(it's no coincidence that it's mostly white males spouting this kind of stuff). It really depends on perspective, I've heard many, many people say the 1920s, 1930s, and 1940s each had pretty distinctive trends and culture and for me personally I will always associate the "00s sound" with loud, trunk rattling southern rap/crunk and autotuned vocals.
In the future(in the US of course) I think many will define the early 2010s by the mainstream explosion of many kinds of electronic dance music styles, the wubble bass sounds of dubstep are a sure date stamp to 2011/2012 too.
Actually i'd say the 00s were pretty one-dimensionally oriented towards hip hop. They weren't as diverse as the 90s.
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