01-16-2014, 02:16 PM
Location: Eugene, OR.
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Hi everyone,
I don't know if anyone interested in an I'm leaving Eugene thread but I'm leaving Eugene in the fall
Pros of Eugene:
Eugene is a great city
Eugene is a beautiful city
It's very safe here, with plenty of shopping options.
Also lots of nature here which I really like.
Lots of places to take my dog out for a walk.
Good to decent school systems. Like LCC is a nice college, but I could never afford UofO
Nice diversity between young, mid-aged, retired, foreign, etc.
Why I'm leaving:
Economy: Everything keeps going up and up and up in price while my paychecks are still down from my last job.
Trying to find a job here is like trying to find a needle in a great big huge haystack.
Last week a family member bought a truck and sold his old truck. He ended up selling it to a couple from Portland who came down to buy the truck because there's not a lot of money floating around here.
This makes me very concerned about my future here.
Where I'm moving:
Undecided but probably Portland
01-16-2014, 02:46 PM
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Having made the Eugene to Pdx jump, I'd say it's better up here and it isn't. Both Eugene and Portland are places where you get a lot of 20 somethings eagerly moving in, in excess of available jobs. There are more jobs posted, but just as much competition for most of them.
Likewise housing is expensive relative to local incomes, so if you're working a low wage job, it's going to be tight here too. Nashville and KC have problems (picking 2 out of a hat), but you can rent or buy in either much more cheaply. Seattle will cost more for housing, but jobs also tend to pay more.
If you're single and flexible, you can do as well or better in Pdx than Eug if you're willing to rent a room in a house or live with roommates. But getting your own apt./house is going to be as bad or worse. Likewise, unlike Eugene, there are parts of the Portland metro where commuting is really rough (time and money).
But your mileage will vary, in part because it depends on precisely what you do for work. In my speciality, e.g., there are only 3 possible employers for me in Eugene (and 2 of them I don't want to work for), vs. roughly 15-20 in Portland (with only 2-3 I wouldn't work for).
But if I did change jobs in Pdx, there's an increased chance I'd have to move, since some of those jobs are 60-90 minutes away at rush. In that timespan you could commute from Eugene to Corvallis/Albany or Salem. So if you're willing to commute that distance, you might just consider commuting out of Eugene up the valley.
Edit: and I'd add there's quite a bit of money floating around in Eugene, but it's more in the college student and retiree boomer crowd than in the 'buy a used truck' crowd.
01-16-2014, 05:36 PM
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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It's pretty well the same wherever you go. Your wages and the job you have depends more on you than the location.
01-16-2014, 05:39 PM
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We bought our home in Eugene about 6 months ago and there are three different neighbors who have been trying to sell their trucks the entire time with no luck. They are nice trucks, too! Very clean and low miles, two are F-150's and one is a Tacoma.
Anyway - maybe Eugene just isn't a good place to try to sell a used vehicle? Or maybe trucks are harder to sell now due to the cost of fuel...
One thing we have experienced first hand in Eugene, is that it is very hard to find qualified people to fill openings. For example, my husband's company has had two openings for almost 18 months and none of the local applicants have had the experience or training necessary to adequately fill the positions. People from out-of-state apply and a few have met the qualifications, but then they decided that they do not want to live in such a small town, or the weather or homeless/hippies/activists/progressive scene scared their wives away, etc.
The job situation can be really bad here depending on your education and skill set. But still - I wouldn't move to Portland or anywhere else, either, without having a job lined up there first.
01-16-2014, 05:50 PM
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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I'll bet that line has been said a thousand times in this forum. "Job First, Move Second".
And maybe we should add "And a Place to Live.".
01-16-2014, 06:59 PM
Location: Eugene, OR.
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bler144
Having made the Eugene to Pdx jump, I'd say it's better up here and it isn't. Both Eugene and Portland are places where you get a lot of 20 somethings eagerly moving in, in excess of available jobs. There are more jobs posted, but just as much competition for most of them.
Likewise housing is expensive relative to local incomes, so if you're working a low wage job, it's going to be tight here too. Nashville and KC have problems (picking 2 out of a hat), but you can rent or buy in either much more cheaply. Seattle will cost more for housing, but jobs also tend to pay more.
If you're single and flexible, you can do as well or better in Pdx than Eug if you're willing to rent a room in a house or live with roommates. But getting your own apt./house is going to be as bad or worse. Likewise, unlike Eugene, there are parts of the Portland metro where commuting is really rough (time and money).
But your mileage will vary, in part because it depends on precisely what you do for work. In my speciality, e.g., there are only 3 possible employers for me in Eugene (and 2 of them I don't want to work for), vs. roughly 15-20 in Portland (with only 2-3 I wouldn't work for).
But if I did change jobs in Pdx, there's an increased chance I'd have to move, since some of those jobs are 60-90 minutes away at rush. In that timespan you could commute from Eugene to Corvallis/Albany or Salem. So if you're willing to commute that distance, you might just consider commuting out of Eugene up the valley.
Edit: and I'd add there's quite a bit of money floating around in Eugene, but it's more in the college student and retiree boomer crowd than in the 'buy a used truck' crowd.
Hi,
I feel you about the commute.
If I move to Portland the office isn't in a bad neighborhood, just not my 1st choice I think. It looks/feels too big.
I used to live and work in Hillsboro and got paid good too, much better than I do down here. Also made for a great tax refund. We had people from as far as Gresham make the commute daily. Getting their reference is why I have the job I have today.
I am single, and in my field there's a lot more companies to work for in Portland than in Eugene. I've considered changing jobs for better pay, but it's hard to find another company to work for when you search and search and search and can't find postings to apply for where as I can do 1 search in Portland and find many places to apply for.
As for job status I can transfer as we're an extension sort of out of Portland.
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01-17-2014, 10:37 AM
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Hi,
I feel you about the commute.
If I move to Portland the office isn't in a bad neighborhood, just not my 1st choice I think. It looks/feels too big.
I used to live and work in Hillsboro and got paid good too, much better than I do down here. Also made for a great tax refund. We had people from as far as Gresham make the commute daily. Getting their reference is why I have the job I have today.
I am single, and in my field there's a lot more companies to work for in Portland than in Eugene. I've considered changing jobs for better pay, but it's hard to find another company to work for when you search and search and search and can't find postings to apply for where as I can do 1 search in Portland and find many places to apply for.
As for job status I can transfer as we're an extension sort of out of Portland.
If you already have the job, then sure, I'd be willing to make the jump.
I suspect you'll find prices in parts of Hillsboro have jumped, depending on how long ago you were there. Looking at complexes in Tanasbourne we saw rents rising about 10% per year the past few years, though I confess I wasn't really watching other parts of the area (Aloha/Orenco/downtown Hboro/etc.).
01-17-2014, 11:36 AM
Location: Eugene, OR.
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Hi everyone,
Before I had moved we had done our monthly grocery shopping. I moved to Hillsboro and needed stuff like groceries, gas, etc. I was surprised that just about all my normal brands/stuff was cheaper up there than here. I'd come back down here to visit family and grab a few things before heading back to the house. Stuff that was on sale wasn't down here, stuff that was not on sale was more expensive. I suspect that it's a closer to the Ports thing where here it gets shipped in just a bit further to raise up some of the prices. The only thing I was paying more for was housing, which has jumped up about $200-$400/mnth. That's why I'm still undecided about Portland.
I was thinking about a loophole of getting a truck and travel trailer with my savings and tax refund. That way if the job doesn't work out up there I can leave Portland and move to a different city. But since I'm getting paid less here than I was in Portland my refund will be less than it was last year.
If I transfer to a different city outside of OR & leave the West Coast my pay will be less, but I'll have a lot more work and my net pay will be more.
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01-17-2014, 12:17 PM
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I have an F350 Turbo Diesel and a 400 Square Foot 5th Wheel. Your idea makes good sense. We lived in it for three years full time, and the year before my Wife retired it was nice being able to hook up and move from Coos Bay to Dallas without a lot of packing. We lived in it an additional three months until the house was remodeled. Give it some thought. A lot of people live in big 5th wheels. There is a difference though between a travel trailer or 5th wheel camper and a full timer like ours. You will need a powerful truck.
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People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)