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Old 11-14-2011, 10:14 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Makes me wonder what suburban Americans feel when they visit Europe or South America for the first time and find themselves in the middle of a busy pedestrian zone, do they get panic attacks?


I have come to feel best when I am in a very old city or town dating back to the middle ages, with streets so close that cars don't fit in. The absence of cars makes me feel so much calmer somehow, the unnatural noise is missing and the constant fear of getting run over is gone. I have read of a little pilot town near Freiburg, Germany, where cars are banned completely. They said that residents' blood pressure has gone down automatically as people there only walk and ride bikes.
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Old 11-14-2011, 10:18 AM
 
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Well if *he* just being sarcastic, then why do you repeat with your own words what *he* just said, that American houses for the most part are junkier then European ones ( in this case - German houses).
And if you'll keep on reading my posts diagonally, I'll change my handle specially for you, for something more familiar like say Honeydew_melon_87.
Now how does that sound?

Now point out where I said our homes are "junkier", and I will tell you how it sounds.
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:00 AM
 
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Makes me wonder what suburban Americans feel when they visit Europe or South America for the first time and find themselves in the middle of a busy pedestrian zone, do they get panic attacks?


I have come to feel best when I am in a very old city or town dating back to the middle ages, with streets so close that cars don't fit in. The absence of cars makes me feel so much calmer somehow, the unnatural noise is missing and the constant fear of getting run over is gone. I have read of a little pilot town near Freiburg, Germany, where cars are banned completely. They said that residents' blood pressure has gone down automatically as people there only walk and ride bikes.
Why would they need to go to Europe to see this when they can just take a trip to NYC? Last time I checked NYC was busier than anything in Europe.
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:21 AM
 
Location: the dairyland
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This really isn't true. I grew up in Western New York where it was pretty much winter for 9 months of the year and we had a pool. My best friend also had one as did many other friends growing up. And we were straight middle class. We used to go pool hopping at night in the summer. We would go through neighborhoods and jump in everyone's pool since 70% if houses had them.
My bad, maybe I should have been more specific. The only region I am really familiar with is the (upper) Midwest, more precisely the Milwaukee area, the Cincinnati area and Chicagoland. Most people I know who live there, or in the suburbs, don#t have pools.
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:33 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Why would they need to go to Europe to see this when they can just take a trip to NYC? Last time I checked NYC was busier than anything in Europe.
Ah, right. Still, isn't NYC more about busy sidewalks rather than pedestrian zones? At least that is the impression I get when watching movies from there, I only see people hurrying on the sidewalks...
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Old 11-14-2011, 11:44 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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My bad, maybe I should have been more specific. The only region I am really familiar with is the (upper) Midwest, more precisely the Milwaukee area, the Cincinnati area and Chicagoland. Most people I know who live there, or in the suburbs, don#t have pools.
I was just checking a few suburbs of Buffalo, NY (I suppose that is Western New York), not many pools there, either. Actually, from the bird's eye perspective there seem to be more homes with pools in Cincinnati than in New York.

And the pools they do have seem more like those round, inflatable ones we used to have as children

buffalo ny - Google Maps
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Old 11-14-2011, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Rochester, NY
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I was just checking a few suburbs of Buffalo, NY (I suppose that is Western New York), not many pools there, either. Actually, from the bird's eye perspective there seem to be more homes with pools in Cincinnati than in New York.

And the pools they do have seem more like those round, inflatable ones we used to have as children

buffalo ny - Google Maps
Rochester. But they're not in all neighborhoods. And what you linked isn't even a nice area in Buffalo. This is a better example:

webster, NY - Google Maps

And they certainly aren't inflatable pools, the above ground ones look like this:

http://www.poolpeopleusa.com/redesign/gallery/AboveGround/11.jpg (broken link)
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Old 11-14-2011, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Earth
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Why would they need to go to Europe to see this when they can just take a trip to NYC? Last time I checked NYC was busier than anything in Europe.
Because Europe is tres cool? I absolutely enjoy it.
I don't care for NYC, so I don't travel there.

Culturally the US and Europe are quite different.
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Old 11-14-2011, 01:37 PM
 
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Because Europe is tres cool? I absolutely enjoy it.
I don't care for NYC, so I don't travel there.

Culturally the US and Europe are quite different.
And so is New York.
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Old 11-14-2011, 01:46 PM
 
Location: the dairyland
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Why would they need to go to Europe to see this when they can just take a trip to NYC? Last time I checked NYC was busier than anything in Europe.
I wonder if you've traveled everywhere in Europe to judge that.
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