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View Poll Results: Who do they "look like" to you?
Other Italians 82 47.40%
Greeks 55 31.79%
Spanish and/or Portuguese 39 22.54%
French 10 5.78%
Lebanese or Syrians 43 24.86%
North Africans 45 26.01%
Latin Americans 24 13.87%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 173. You may not vote on this poll

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Unread 05-25-2011, 10:32 AM
 
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I as well as friends of Sicilian ancestry have been mistaken for various groups (Lebanese, Colombian, and Greek being the biggest three). I haven't met one Sicilian who hasn't been mistaken for something else.
they are all mediterranean looking to me. i can't tell the difference between any of the ethnicities you listed.
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Unread 05-25-2011, 10:36 AM
 
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Its weird that Latin America is an option but not Israel. I have confused many Sicilians for being Jewish but I rarely confuse a Sicilian for being a George Lopez like Mestizo.
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Unread 05-25-2011, 10:40 AM
 
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Its weird that Latin America is an option but not Israel. I have confused many Sicilians for being Jewish but I rarely confuse a Sicilian for being a George Lopez like Mestizo.
Well I should have put Israel with Lebanon and Syria and called the option "Levantines" and looking at the answers, I should have also put Armenia because I've seen a few posts asking why Armenia wasn't an option.
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Unread 05-25-2011, 10:43 AM
 
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Berbers aren't black. Have you seen what Riffians and Kabyles look like? They look much closer to, and are more related to, Southern Europeans than to black Africans. Any black African influence in North Africa is due to the Arab Slave Trade.
How do we know how did they look like back in the 8 century???
Second, we have evidence of EYE witness saying that Moors were black..
Not only that Moors means black people...
So why Europeans call them Moors?? because they were blacks..
I have posted something that you just clearly avoid.. of a person writing the invasion of France by the Moors and say they are black as black in, and the only white is their teeth...
I am sorry but your point of berbers is ridiculous, we dont know how berbers were back then and if in fact they were berbers...
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Unread 05-25-2011, 10:45 AM
 
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they are all mediterranean looking to me. i can't tell the difference between any of the ethnicities you listed.
Hmm.. choose one
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Unread 05-25-2011, 10:46 AM
 
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Italians/Sicilians are not part Black.. please stop with this BS.
is actually a fact...
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Unread 05-25-2011, 10:46 AM
 
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How do we know how did they look like back in the 8 century???
Second, we have evidence of EYE witness saying that Moors were black..
Not only that Moors means black people...
So why Europeans call them Moors?? because they were blacks..
I have posted something that you just clearly avoid.. of a person writing the invasion of France by the Moors and say they are black as black in, and the only white is their teeth...
I am sorry but your point of berbers is ridiculous, we dont know how berbers were back then and if in fact they were berbers...
Okay think of it this way. There might have been SOME African slaves that were brought by the Arabs.. after all they did own some slaves and probably brought them along. Secondly, if all Europeans had ever seen was people who were very pale skinned, don't you think someone with darker skin even if not black, would seem black by comparison?

Herodotus also called the Egyptians "black with hair like wool" and are Egyptians black with hair like wool? Not that I know of.
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Unread 05-25-2011, 10:52 AM
 
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Moors that invaded Spain and Sicily were "berberiscs", from the kabyles, at that time they were not mixed with African slaves. They were cannon fodder since leadership were Arabs. They did not leave any significant imprint in Europe because they were a minute minority, for example, around 20.000 in a country of 7.000.000 inhabitants.
Please...
Again, writings states that they were black..
also why would they call them Moors??? which means black???
Again were you there, how can we ignore the writings of people that were present and said they were blacks.
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Unread 05-25-2011, 10:57 AM
 
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lets see real evidence.. Paintings of the time...

Now this are real paintings of real people.. lets see...
This was a King of the Moors, looks black to me.



more current picture,, still black..

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Unread 05-25-2011, 10:59 AM
 
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Real painting...

[IMG]http://api.ning.com/files/4Im7OXThO5*G8dp*Q-I85dtP85cW56GTfScftPM6F-xyddths7RlO7MCNmj1W8V2eR0S6Q0wYywoPZyT5XJUIz9gXLLV 7cfl/moorishpower.jpg[/IMG]

real portrait of a moor, at the time people that made portrait were rich people, so this was a rich moor..

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