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Why don't you consider the Baltic states "Northern Europe"? I can actually see where they got that from, given that Finland and Estonia are practically twin countries in many respects and their languages come from the same branch of Uralic. I certainly don't consider the Baltic states Eastern Europe or Central Europe, so Northern Europe would be the best option.
Because once they've got under Russian dominance they've got legs and moved to the East.
Let me see here for a second...
"Tallinn became a city in the 13th century, being under Danish rule. The name Tallinn comes from Taani Linn, meaning Danish City. Tallinn became a member of the Hanseatic League at the end of the 13th century, and the city became one of the most important towns in Northern Europe until the mid 16th century, being a strategic trading port town between Western Europe and Russia"
Nah, what a silly thought...
And don't you recognize typical Russian architecture in Riga, Latvia?
Right there - so no, definitely Eastern Europe, what "North" are you talking about?
Not like I'm the only one who would not do it this way...
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Originally Posted by LindavG
The question of this thread is: where does the East begin? It's not that easy to define. Different criteria will lead to different answers.
Why wouldn't you call the Balkans "Southern Europe", they are in the South of Europe, right? Going by your criteria above, Southern Europe is in the southern part of Europe I would classify the Balkans as South-Eastern Europe btw.
Why don't you consider the Baltic states "Northern Europe"? I can actually see where they got that from, given that Finland and Estonia are practically twin countries in many respects and their languages come from the same branch of Uralic. I certainly don't consider the Baltic states Eastern Europe or Central Europe, so Northern Europe would be the best option.
I disagree with the map in its division of North and West Europe. I consider Ireland, the UK, the Benelux and France to be West-Europe. The Nordic and Baltic countries are North-Europe. Iberia and Italy are South-Europe. Germany, Poland, Austria, Czech Rep., Slovakia, Hungary and maybe Slovenia are Central Europe. Anything east of these countries is Eastern Europe (with as sub-division the Balkans as SE Europe). That's how I would classify Europe
Edit: I see that I left out Switzerland. Well, Switzerland is in a category of its own
Western Europe:
Nordic Countries
Ireland
United Kingdom
Benelux
Germany
France (Incl. Monaco)
Switzerland
Liechtenstein
Austria
Iberia
Italy (Incl. Vatican & San Marino)
Malta
Eastern Europe:
Baltics
Belarus
Western Russia
Georgia
Armenia
Poland
Ukraine
Czechoslovakia
Slovenia
Hungary
Romania
Moldova
Balkans
Cyprus
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Northern Europe:
Nordic Countries
Baltics
Belarus
Western Russia
Ireland
United Kingdom
Benelux
Germany
Poland
Ukraine
Northern & Central France
Switzerland
Liechtenstein
Austria
Czechoslovakia
Hungary
Northern Italy (Aosta Valley, Piedmont, Lombardy, Trentino, Veneto, Friuli)
Slovenia
Northern Croatia
Northern Serbia (Vojvodina)
Romania
Moldova
Georgia
Armenia
Southern Europe:
Iberia
Southern France (Aquitaine, Midi-Pyrenees, Languedoc-Roussillon, PACA, Monaco, Corsica)
Italy (except Aosta Valley, Piedmont, Lombardy, Trentino, Veneto, Friuli)
Malta
Balkans (except Northern Croatia & Northern Serbia)
Cyprus
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Turkey, Azerbaijan, Kazachstan & Eastern Russia (Siberia) is Asia in my book.
Because once they've got under Russian dominance they've got legs and moved to the East.
Let me see here for a second...
"Tallinn became a city in the 13th century, being under Danish rule. The name Tallinn comes from Taani Linn, meaning Danish City. Tallinn became a member of the Hanseatic League at the end of the 13th century, and the city became one of the most important towns in Northern Europe until the mid 16th century, being a strategic trading port town between Western Europe and Russia"
Nah, what a silly thought...
And don't you recognize typical Russian architecture in Riga, Latvia?
Right there - so no, definitely Eastern Europe, what "North" are you talking about?
Thank you for the beautiful picture, I grew up there! If you ask people in Latvia, they will tell you they consider themselves Eastern European. However, if you look at downtown Stockholm, it looks the same!
Western Europe:
Nordic Countries
Ireland
United Kingdom
Benelux
Germany
France (Incl. Monaco)
Switzerland
Liechtenstein
Austria
Iberia
Italy (Incl. Vatican & San Marino)
Malta
Eastern Europe:
Baltics
Belarus
Western Russia
Georgia
Armenia
Poland
Ukraine
Czechoslovakia
Slovenia
Hungary
Romania
Moldova
Balkans
Cyprus
-----------------------------
Northern Europe:
Nordic Countries
Baltics
Belarus
Western Russia
Ireland
United Kingdom
Benelux
Germany
Poland
Ukraine
Northern & Central France
Switzerland
Liechtenstein
Austria
Czechoslovakia
Hungary
Northern Italy (Aosta Valley, Piedmont, Lombardy, Trentino, Veneto, Friuli)
Slovenia
Northern Croatia
Northern Serbia (Vojvodina)
Romania
Moldova
Georgia
Armenia
Southern Europe:
Iberia
Southern France (Aquitaine, Midi-Pyrenees, Languedoc-Roussillon, PACA, Monaco, Corsica)
Italy (except Aosta Valley, Piedmont, Lombardy, Trentino, Veneto, Friuli)
Malta
Balkans (except Northern Croatia & Northern Serbia)
Cyprus
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Turkey, Azerbaijan, Kazachstan & Eastern Russia (Siberia) is Asia in my book.
Turkey and Azerbajan - Asia or middle east?!
My grandma lived in a village in the Ural mountains, outside the village on the road there was a sign, that said Europe on one side, and Asia on the other (I have a picture somewhere). Therefore, in Russia, the line between Europe and Asia goes through the Ural mountains.
Eastern Europe begins where German and Italian language stop. If they speak Hungarian or a Slavic language, you're in Eastern Europe. The line would follow the eastern border of Finland, Germany, Austria, Italy.
Culturally, if one divides Europe into just east and west, I'd say the post-communist states are east and the rest are west.
If one includes ''central'' as an option, I'd say European Russia, Belraus, and Ukraine are eastern Europe ( along with arguably the Caucas states ); Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Poland, Hungary, Solvenia, and the Czech and Slovak republics as central, but would probably put most of the Balkans in their own category.
Yes, pretty much this, and with the baltic countries split somewhere among eastern, central and northern.
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