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Old 07-12-2013, 12:55 PM
 
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there have been cases where celtic and germanic cultures have both clashed and intermingled i am refering to the southern netherlands and belium, generrally in the northern nl the people appear a cluster of taller scandanavion looking ones while in the southern nl they are less tall generally and darker in appearance, also culturally and linguistically there are differences if small ones,i think germanisation is done counsciously an per generation , furthermore it is not ***** inevitable or the completion therofe in any way a required outcome for the spiritual wellbeing or the economic prosperity of the west in the further millenial future. Mind you i'm just me and in no position to give guarantees . "Houdoe wanne"!

 
Old 07-12-2013, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Poshawa, Ontario
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This is even increasing, it is now seen as "cool" to claim this pseudo "celtic" belonging
So, you believe that the rich Celtic heritage in Ireland, including the Gaelic language and 900+ years of pre-Christian rule by Celtic Kings, is a sham?

Good lord... Do you know even a single thing about Irish history or do you just repeat various nonsense you read on conspiracy sites on the interwebz?
 
Old 07-12-2013, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Seville, Spain
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The level of red hair in Spain or Italy is way too low to even compare it with the frequency in the British Isles, but it most likely occurs in the northern regions where there was more northern invasion and less Moorish influence in the case of Spain. 'Black Irish' is an American social term for dark-haired Irish people, it has no scientific basis, just a social term. You easily get confused, it has nothing to do with the co-sanguinity garbage rather adaptation to cool, cloudy climate, little sunlight requires a very pale skin tone in order to absorb Vitamin D in the shortest time. Since red-heads usually have the lightest skin tones, their frequency increased in those areas of Northern Europe which were the cloudiest, the British Isles. It's that simple!

What the Arab blood Spanish is a myth, not true. The percentage is similar to other Western European countries or even less. Genetic testing confirmed, Eupedia data. Did the Brits are darker than the Swedes because they have more Arab blood? Do not talk nonsense
 
Old 07-12-2013, 02:09 PM
 
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Exactly... But the "celtic Romantic propaganda" worked so well that one centruay and half after, so many people still bought it without a doubt.
This is even increasing, it is now seen as "cool" to claim this pseudo "celtic" belonging
There is no "pseudo Celtic", though this might go against your beliefs about who the Celts were and where they went. The evidence of the presence of Celtic people and Celtic speakers in the British Isles is overwhelming and proved by science with biologists, geneticists, archaeologists etc... Without a doubt, before Roman,Anglo-Saxon,Viking, Norman invasions, the British Isles populations were predominantly Celtic by excellence. As you might know Y-chromosomes are passed exclusively on a male from father to son and 95% remained unchanged, in this way they provide a unique record of male ancestry. By comparing 1,700 males volunteers from 24 small towns across the U.K., these men in order to qualify had to able to trace their ancestry for several generations in that same town, then scientists compared their data with 400 DNA samples collected in Denmark, Germany and Norway. The results reveals the following that 60% of northern Scottish male have Norwegian ancestry, the majority of men in east and central England show Danish/Anglo-Saxon ancestry. Y-chromosomes in Wales and Ireland shows very little continental Dna after Celtic invasions, and southern English might be as Celtic as the more typically Celtic Scots. So yes Ireland, Wales, parts of Scotland may be called Celtic.

The map shows you the areas in green as the places which were least affected by Germanic invaders who came from Northern Europe and for the most part remained Celtic.

 
Old 07-12-2013, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Warren, OH
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Celtic folks of Ireland are predominantly R1b-L21.



Germanic people of the Netherlands are mostly R1b-U106.

And I see no difference. What is it you are trying to prove? That there is some kind of Master race?

They all look like they have an intimate relationship with Clairol Light Ash blond B-2.
That's what there "roots" are. Brown.
 
Old 07-12-2013, 03:44 PM
 
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It would safe to say that the French is probably the most "Germanic-influenced" of the traditionally-derived Latin languages. This is why French pronounciation is many times so different from other known Romance languages and includes many sounds typically found in Germanic languages. The strongest Frankish settlements were Germania Inferior, in Belgium, southern Netherlands and northern Rhineland in Germany. Actually Belgium, Netherlands are my maternal ancestral homelands. It was in these areas, that the Franks, probably the most powerful and most organized of the Germanic tribes on continental Europe before the mighty Vikings started their excursions most likely settled in the third century AD. Wallonia with Tournai as the Merovingian capital and Liege for the Carolingian was the center of the Merovingian and Carolingian homeland not Flanders! Only after conquering Gallia Romana(France) that Clovis moved the capital to Paris. The ancestor of the modern French language started as a jargon form of Latin spoken by the Salian Franks in northern France. The original Germanic Frankish language developed into Dutch, Flemish and Franconian German. Wallonia and northern France are the only part of the original Frankish kingdoms that nows speaks a Romance language, because they lied near the political center of the Frankish monarchy where Latin was predominant. A parallel to this, was the same way the English monarchy after Norman invasion spoke French, while the population spoke Middle-English which is closer to Frisian, Saxon and Frankish languages. The difference was that in England, the two languages merged into one due to intermarriages and closer contact between the nobility and the rest of the population, while on the continent, the elite of almost every country spoke French until the mid-20th century( as far as the Ottoman Empire, French was the language of the upper class!). So we see why Wallonia and Northern France became predominantly French-speaking, because there was a higher density of Frankish nobles and their children whether legitimate or not!

 
Old 07-13-2013, 01:35 AM
 
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They arrived in Britain and Ireland around 500BC and within a few hundred years, Ireland's Bronze Age culture had all but disappeared, and Celtic culture was in place across the entire island.

Whether or not the arrival of the Celts in Ireland was an actual invasion, or a more gradual assimilation, is an open question [1]. On the one hand, the Celts - who were by no means pacifists - must have arrived in sufficiently large numbers to obliterate the existing culture in Ireland within a few hundred years. On the other hand, other better documented invasions of Ireland - such as the Viking invasions of the 7th and 8th centuries AD - failed to have the effect of changing the culture on an islandwide scale. Current academic opinion favours the theory that the Celts arrived in Ireland over the course of several centuries, beginning in the late Bronze Age with Celts of the early iron-using Hallstatt group of people, to be followed after 300BC by Celts of the La Tène cultural group which formed within the Hallstatt group.


Celtic Ireland in the Iron Age: the Celts
 
Old 07-13-2013, 06:05 AM
 
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And I see no difference. What is it you are trying to prove? That there is some kind of Master race?

They all look like they have an intimate relationship with Clairol Light Ash blond B-2.
That's what there "roots" are. Brown.
There's no master race, so don't fool yourself. Two people might look alike to you, but to someone else they might not. R1b-L21 and R1b-U106 are among the diffferent subclades of the R1b haplogroup which is common in western Europe. Whether blonde/brunette/red-headed, there is no master race.
 
Old 07-13-2013, 09:38 PM
 
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According to the DNA tribes study, Europeans were divided into Eastern European which is Slavic-speaking regions of Europe.

Finno-Ugrian; are the Uralic-speaking regions of Northeastern Europe.

Mediterranean; are the Romance-speaking regions of Southern Europe.

Northwest European; are the Celtic and Germanic-speaking regions of Northwestern Europe.


 
Old 07-14-2013, 03:23 AM
 
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It is quite tiresome to repeat 100 hundred times what we were taught at HS.

The French language has no Germanic influence whatsoever, and I speak modern and medieval French. The Germanic influence in French, Italian and Spanish is very modern ans consists of English neologisms (week end, software, etc).

Hispania, Gallia and the Italic peninsula received a large number of Germanic tribes, probably Italy received more being the richer place, but their cultural influence was very scarce, their demographic influence was even more scarce since they were very few. Gallia had 10.000.000 Galoromans inhabitants and received less than 300.000 invaders. Italy 15.000.000 and received 500.000 and Hispania had 7.000.000 and received 250.000.

Their demographic weight was insignificant and their cultural influence was just residual, after all they were barbarians. In about two or three generation, most lost their language and were totally absorbed by the Church and the former Roman bureaucracy.

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