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Check Europedia, haplotypes.
After the Ice Age, 12.000-10.000, Western Europe was inhabited by the same people called "Alpines" today. They settled all Europe from Ice Age shelters in southern and Atlantic Europe. During the Ice Age, most Northen Europe and Scandinavia were covered by ice.
Some 3.000 to 6.000 years ago, Europe was invaded by Indoeuropeans R1b "Maykop culture". They practically exterminated most of the male population in many parts of Western Europe, except Scandinavia and Greece.
So if you remove Rib and Ria haplotypes, and those corresponding to Uralic and Tirkic invaders after the Roman Empire (Huns, Alans, Bulgars, etc), you can find traces of the former inhabitants of Europe.
The origin of REAL Irish people is Spain (8.000 years ago).
If you are Scottish, then you are not Irish.
Not only that, your ancestors committed genocide against Irish people.
If your ancestry is not Irish, then you are as Irish as a third-generation Cantonese living in Dublin except that Cantonese did not try to exterminate Irish people.
There are probably millions of people in Europe that doesn't have a gene for light-eyes. Not all the people of one area in Europe have the same genome. The visible features of "ethnicities" are not shared by everyone in this group; it is just a question of "averages". Usually, stereotypically, The more you go to the south of Europe, the more you have a greater frequence of dark eyes, and the more you go to the north, the more you have a high frequence for light eyes. The same for the "hidden" genes.
Everywhere in Europe you can have light eyes, a lot of Andalucians or Sicilians have light eyes. Inversely, a lot of Scandinavian can have dark eyes.
Actually the peoples of Europe doesn't form homogenous distinct groups, but tend to be part of a continuum, the neighboring populations usually tend to overlap on the "genetic map".
Most of the populations of the countries of north-western Europe tend to largely overlap (England, Ireland, Denmark, Northern Germany); when actually the southern European peoples, contrary to the common belief do not form such a continuity: Iberian populations (Spanish and Portuguese) tend to completly overlap, while the are quite distinct to Italy. French population is a sort of "bridge" between the Iberians and North-western Europeans. Italy has a lot of genetic diversity, the northern populations are the closest to Spaniards and French peoples, but the south tend to share more genetics with eastern mediterranean peoples (greek, leventines)
Yes, indeed the vast majority of indigenous Europeans do have the genes for light eyes. However this decreases from north to south. Yes even in Greece, people have light eyes but would be less numerous than in France or Switzerland for example.
I wonder if there is a single Chinese or Japanese person without straight black hair and brown eyes? It seems amazing to me that a population of over 1 billion people all have the same hair and eye color. I think my family has a more diverse range of hair color, hair straightness, and eye color than all of China.
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I wonder if there is a single Chinese or Japanese person without straight black hair and brown eyes? It seems amazing to me that a population of over 1 billion people all have the same hair and eye color. I think my family has a more diverse range of hair color, hair straightness, and eye color than all of China.
I don't know if you count it but many many Chinese people have wavy hair/loose curls. I've also met some with very curly, basically negroid hair (though this is very rare). Due to mutations some also have blue and other coloured eyes. In Western China and Mongolia lighter-hair and light-eyes are not unknown.
The dark brown areas on the map especially interests me. I know though rare some Sicilians and Turks can have blue eyes, so would you say the gene for having light eyes (blue, grey, green) is universal throughout Europe? I know it even extends outside Europe, but I'm wondering if there are ANY populations in Europe that are 100% dark-eyed (excluding mutations)?
The majority does, but it dcreases as you south.
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