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Old 02-19-2012, 08:34 AM
 
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I don't know, but this thread sort of reminded me... I recently discovered that people from the UK don't consider themselves europeans.

They refer to Germans, Italians, French, etc. as "Europeans". Just interesting, thought I'd share. Discovered this while traveling recently.

 
Old 02-19-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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I don't know, but this thread sort of reminded me... I recently discovered that people from the UK don't consider themselves europeans.

They refer to Germans, Italians, French, etc. as "Europeans". Just interesting, thought I'd share. Discovered this while traveling recently.
I don't think it's as clear cut as that. Some British people see themselves as distinct from continental Europe, mainly because we're an island, but I don't think there are many who actually deny we are European.

Personally I see the UK as a European country. I mean, how can we really be anything else? Our history, culture and language is 100% European.

To be honest, I would say people like the Norwegians, Icelanders, Swiss, etc see themselves as even more removed from Europe than the British, after all, they're not even in the EU, whereas it says "European Union" on British passports.
 
Old 02-19-2012, 08:52 AM
 
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Much of that is specifically Barack Obama. He may harbour deep-seeded resentment towards the British, most likely because of his grandfather's involvement with the Mau Mau uprising in Kenya. The British were a brutal colonial power, just like all colonial powers. Barack Obama's mother's side of the family (the Dunhams) have strong English roots though. If you've seen pictures of them, they even look English.
Would you say Republic presidents are more likely to be pro-British than Democrat presidents, or would you say the UK-US special relationship is more down to the personal feeling of individual presidents rather than a right-wing/left-wing thing?
 
Old 02-19-2012, 09:12 AM
 
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I've noticed particularly the French and German media refers to the British and the Americans as if they're almost the same nationality, using terms such as "Anglo-American", "Anglo-Saxon", "British/Americans", etc.

Saying America and the UK are similar is like saying Spain and Mexico are similar, or even France and Gabon.

It's rediculously ignorant of continental Europeans to consider the UK and USA to be similar, yet quite often they talk about the UK and USA as if they are almost identical.

Why? Does it stem from xenophobic arrogance? I mean, in the UK, we never refer to the Spanish as "those Mexican/Spanish", so why do they refer to us as "Anglo-Americans"?
The British gotta stop being so anal about everything... so, stop.
 
Old 02-19-2012, 10:56 AM
 
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Probably because most Britons don't trust Europeans but feel rather close to the US and other English speaking nations such as Australia and Canada.
 
Old 02-19-2012, 11:19 AM
 
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[quote=jtur88;23048926]For the same reason that Americans think Germans, Austrians and Swiss are the same.

I think if most non-European people have to draw a map of Europe it would look like this

Greenland------------------------------------
---------------Scandinavia-------------------
-----------------------------------Russia----
--Ireland-England----Germany----------------
-------------------France-------Yugoslavia--
------------------Spain--Italy---------------
--------------------------------Greece------

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Old 02-19-2012, 11:33 AM
 
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Because America until recently was little more than a British colony in all but name...think of all those presidents...(apart from Eisenhower/Roosevelt) all were Scot/Irish/English and america was run by London/Rothchild appointed politicians. Even now despite there's an African American president, there's never been an Italian American president for example.
 
Old 02-19-2012, 11:57 AM
 
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With regard to Spain, until the early 1970's sometime I found that among older people anyone who spoke what sounded like English was called "ingles" and anyone who looked Asian was "chino". As tourism increased and younger people came into the mainstream the distinctions began to be made.
 
Old 02-19-2012, 09:05 PM
 
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In many ways the US and UK and the other Anglosphere nations are a 'bloc' separate from Europe. Yes, the UK may have historical and economic ties to Europe, but take internet communication for instance. Since most British people are not fluent in other languages, most of the exchange is between the English speaking nations. NY and London is still the most traversed air route, has the most online traffic and cultural exchange in the world. For many years global popular culture was dominated by the Trans-Atlantic. While this isn't as dominant now, don't underestimate the power of the North American-British connection.
 
Old 02-19-2012, 09:07 PM
 
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i have never seen that. i think u mean maybe racially?
trust me the french treat americans and english different. they tolerate english. they hate americans. just hate em.
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