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View Poll Results: Are people from the Celtic countries ethnically still different from the English?
Yes, they aren't any more English than a German or an Italian is, totally different ethnicity 36 24.49%
They're somewhat closer to being English than any other ethnicities are, but they're still different enough 74 50.34%
I consider all British Isles groups one single meta-ethnicity 37 25.17%
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Old 07-28-2012, 03:23 AM
 
Location: The heart of Cascadia
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Do you think all the people of the British Isles could be considered a meta-ethnicity now, much in the same sense Danes, Swedes and Norwegians are very much subgroups of the same Scandinavian people in certain ways, or in the way Czechs and Slovaks and Germans and Austrians are close blood?

 
Old 07-30-2012, 10:23 AM
 
Location: The heart of Cascadia
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It seems like to some extent, the Celtic ethnicities are less 'English' now than they were 100 years ago, as they are reclaiming their languages and customs.
 
Old 07-30-2012, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Strathclyde & Málaga
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History books are your best friend.

It is such a deep topic. Scotland itself has many difficult cultures/ethnicity with the Viking invasions in the north like Shetland, Orkney to the Altantic celts from Iberia to the Germanic tribes its complex that's why I read books. I do recommend;

The Origins of the British: The New Prehistory of Britain: A Genetic Detective Story.

I read this it is very informative
 
Old 07-30-2012, 03:26 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Well, on another thread here earlier, people from the regions discussed here agreed that Scotland, Ireland and Wales were more like Indigenous quasi-sovereign reservations than independent countries. That would indicate that they're separate ethnicities.
 
Old 07-30-2012, 05:01 PM
 
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Well, on another thread here earlier, people from the regions discussed here agreed that Scotland, Ireland and Wales were more like Indigenous quasi-sovereign reservations than independent countries. That would indicate that they're separate ethnicities.
You are confusing ethnicity with nationality.
 
Old 07-30-2012, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Scotland
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You are confusing ethnicity with nationality.
Lol I know. There are plenty of Indians in in Guyana...... and in India!
 
Old 07-31-2012, 03:57 AM
 
Location: Northampton
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*** Scots, Irish and English ***
 
Old 07-31-2012, 04:22 AM
 
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The Blood of the Isles, by Sykes.

Ethnically, more than 85% of the genetic stock of Irish, Scots, Wales and English is identical.

The other 15% corresponds to invaders that came mainly after the fall of the Roman Empire, pirates and predators that took advantage of the weak position of the isles when Romans withdrew.

The islands were populated 8.000 years ago (some 2000 years after the ice witdrew) by proto-bascoid people that went walking from northen Spain, and the Celtic culture also came from Spain some 2500 years ago.

So the Mylean mith was truth.
 
Old 07-31-2012, 04:38 AM
 
Location: Northampton
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The Blood of the Isles, by Sykes.

The other 15% corresponds to invaders that came mainly after the fall of the Roman Empire, pirates and predators that took advantage of the weak position of the isles when Romans withdrew.

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Pirates and Predators?? are you saying the Angles, Saxons and Jutes were pirates and predators???
 
Old 07-31-2012, 04:48 AM
 
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Yes, basically. Plunderers, along with the Vikings (that came much later). The island was left to their own devices when Roman retreated, and pirates, predators and scavengers festered on the corpse. The Britons (real English) were subject to all kinds of abuse and humiliations. Then, Normans came during the 11th Century and kicked the butts of descendants of pirates and they were subject to serfdom. Normans brought some civilization and French became the court's language, that's why English is a semi-Latin language, not a totally barbaric one.
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