What ethnic groups sunburn? (names, Poland, safe, places)

[easthome]

Originally Posted by cloxias

Ethnic groups than sunburn are mostly Irish and British followed by Scandinavians.

Type I- pale white skin, always burns doesn't tan - those of Irish, Scottish, English, Welsh, Cornish, Manx, Aussie, White New Zealander and Breton ancestors.

Type II- fair skin, burns easily, tans poorly - those of Scandinavian, Baltic, Dutch, Belgian, Northern German, Northern French and White South Afrikaan ancestors.

Type III- medium skin, tans after initial burns - those of German, Austrian, Swiss, Slovene, French, Hungarian, West Slavic, East Slavic, South Slavic, Balkan and North/Central Italian ancestors.

Type IV- light brown/olive, burns minimally, tans easily - those of Spanish, Portuguese, Greek, some Caucasus/Caucasian, some Italian and some South French ancestors.

Type V- light/medium brown/olive, burns rarely, tans easily - those of Iberian, Canarian, Sicilian, Maltese, Greek, Cypriot, Turkish, Latin American, Maghrebi, Levantine, Iraqi, some Arabian, Caucasus/Caucasian, Iranian, Azeri, Far Eastern, Afghan, some Pakistani and even some Northwest Indian.

Type VI- brown,rarely burns, tans dark easily - those of Indian, some Hispanic, some Southeast Asian, some New World Black, Pacific Islander, some Arabian and some Sub Saharan ancestors.

Type VII- dark brown/black skin never burns, always tans darkly - those of some Indian, some Sub Saharan and some Oceanian ancestors.

Hair and eye colour does not always count.

You havent listened to a word thats been said have you! British people ARE NOT all identical drones! they are NO DIFFERENT to other Europeans!!!!!!!!!!! Britons ARE NOT ALL PALE SKINNED redheads!! geeeeeeeez

[saxonwold]

Originally Posted by easthome

90% of Brits do not sunburn any more than any other European (especially northern ones!) - they are THE SAME, they are IDENTICAL ETHNICITIES.

They do sorry. I have proof, there are plenty of articles and medical sources written about it. Identical? I don't think so.

[Bernie20]

Originally Posted by easthome

You havent listened to a word thats been said have you! British people ARE NOT all identical drones! they are NO DIFFERENT to other Europeans!!!!!!!!!!! Britons ARE NOT ALL PALE SKINNED redheads!! geeeeeeeez

Hasn't this been gone over dozens of times? No one is saying that every last British person is a pale skinned redhead. Studies have shown that a large percentage have Type I & II skin. The Irish are actually paler than the British on average but there are still Irishmen like Colin Farrell who sport darker colouring. That just about covers it.

All people can sunburn depending on the circumstances but the populations most susceptible are the ones with a higher proportion of Type I and II skin. Very logical and easy to understand.

[hvl]

Originally Posted by easthome

I'm British and I am not fairer than other Europeans, and neither is 90% of other Britons I know! In fact they're not ANY different to other Europeans because we share the same ancestors! That's my point! Britons ARE NOT a different 'race' to other (particularly Northern) Europeans! Aaaaaargh! British is NOT an ethnicity! Why oh why do people actually think that being British somehow makes you 'different' to other Europeans!

The Brits have similarities with other northern europeans of the same latitude, of course, but there are peculiarities in the British population. Many people in Britain have a distinct mediterranean look (and they are in fact mediterraneans arrive a few thousand years ago) that is very rare in, say, Denmark or the Netherlands.

[saxonwold]

Originally Posted by hvl

The Brits have similarities with other northern europeans of the same latitude, of course, but there are peculiarities in the British population. Many people in Britain have a distinct mediterranean look (and they are in fact mediterraneans arrive a few thousand years ago) that is very rare in, say, Denmark or the Netherlands.

Wrong! The British closest genetical cluster on continental Europe are the Dutch, Danish and Norwegian populations and they are all predominantly of the Northern European genome. Yes the Dutch, Danish, Norwegians are mainly Germanic, while in Britain we have Celtic and Germanic groups. The Celtic group shows a slightly higher frequency of brown hair than the Germanic, but at the same time a higher frequency of very pale skin and reddish hair than the Germanic.. The fact that the British have an over-all slightly paler skin complexion than the Danes and Dutch proves that their ancestors lived in Northern Europe for quite a while. If you knew something, you would have known Mediterranean have a lower frequency of very pale skin than the Northern Europeans as a whole.

[saxonwold]

Originally Posted by Bernie20

Hasn't this been gone over dozens of times? No one is saying that every last British person is a pale skinned redhead. Studies have shown that a large percentage have Type I & II skin. The Irish are actually paler than the British on average but there are still Irishmen like Colin Farrell who sport darker colouring. That just about covers it.

All people can sunburn depending on the circumstances but the populations most susceptible are the ones with a higher proportion of Type I and II skin. Very logical and easy to understand.

Colin Farrell is dark-haired, but his skin type is not any particularly dark, it's type III. The majority of Europeans or white people are type III anyway.

[saxonwold]

France which also has a strong Celtic strain represented it's northern population especially that of Britanny(Bretagne) thus has a comparatively high frequency of skin type I and at the same time enters the Southern European region in the south thus also has a good representation of skin type IV. According to proper French study published in May 2005 by Institut de Ville Sanitaire titled Resume de Radiation Ultraviolets. The study is done on French people who are of European ancestry/white-skinned. I emphasize this, to make sure there is no confusion.

Skin phototypes with their complexion, sunburn ability,tanning ability.

I - Milky, very high freckling ability, always sunburns, zero tan
II - Pale, high freckling ability, always sunburns, slight tan
III - Pale, some freckling ability, frequent sunburns, pale tan
IV - Dark, zero freckles, rare sunburns, dark tan
V - Dark, zero freckles, exceptional sunburns, very dark tan
VI - Black, zero freckles, none for sunburn, black

In the French population, types I to IV are found as in every European population.(By Bataille et al 2005)

I - 11.6%
II - 25.7%
III - 30.9%
IV - 31.5%

[Mmega]

Originally Posted by hvl

The Brits have similarities with other northern europeans of the same latitude, of course, but there are peculiarities in the British population. Many people in Britain have a distinct mediterranean look (and they are in fact mediterraneans arrive a few thousand years ago) that is very rare in, say, Denmark or the Netherlands.

Actually Mediterranean type looks (if they are to be compared to said looks in the British isles), are actually not uncommon in the Netherlands, especially south of the Rhine. Certainly they aren't uncommon in Germany either, and Paleo-Atlantid types are also seen across Scandinavia as a minority. But I would disagree with the idea that MANY people in Britain have a DISTINCT Mediterranean look. That's not true or founded by anything, unless you watched something with Rowan Atkinson and made a grand generalization. He's got a more distinct look, but extremely rare. Most dark haired types that someone like Traveler86 proclaimed as MED, are not Mediterranean at all. True distinct Mediterranean looks are rare, even in Wales.

[Mmega]

Originally Posted by saxonwold

Wrong! The British closest genetical cluster on continental Europe are the Dutch, Danish and Norwegian populations and they are all predominantly of the Northern European genome. Yes the Dutch, Danish, Norwegians are mainly Germanic, while in Britain we have Celtic and Germanic groups. The Celtic group shows a slightly higher frequency of brown hair than the Germanic, but at the same time a higher frequency of very pale skin and reddish hair than the Germanic.. The fact that the British have an over-all slightly paler skin complexion than the Danes and Dutch proves that their ancestors lived in Northern Europe for quite a while. If you knew something, you would have known Mediterranean have a lower frequency of very pale skin than the Northern Europeans as a whole.

The Celts were one of the most widespread of all people in Europe. The Dutch, and especially the Germans have considerable if not majority Celtic blood.

[cloxias]

Originally Posted by easthome

You havent listened to a word thats been said have you! British people ARE NOT all identical drones! they are NO DIFFERENT to other Europeans!!!!!!!!!!! Britons ARE NOT ALL PALE SKINNED redheads!! geeeeeeeez

I already have been listening to what has been going on.

So you do not need to tell me.

Also do not be so paranoid.

So are these not British then?

http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...%20Kiev-884082
http://img.timeinc.net/time/today_in...ny_0623_03.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UjamZTd5e1...z+2011+279.jpg

Originally Posted by Bernie20

Hasn't this been gone over dozens of times? No one is saying that every last British person is a pale skinned redhead. Studies have shown that a large percentage have Type I & II skin. The Irish are actually paler than the British on average but there are still Irishmen like Colin Farrell who sport darker colouring. That just about covers it.

All people can sunburn depending on the circumstances but the populations most susceptible are the ones with a higher proportion of Type I and II skin. Very logical and easy to understand.

Exactly true, our Easthome is just being a bit paranoid.

Nobody has even mentioned about pale skinned redheads but just instead about how pale British and Irish are in general, so nothing about hair colour here.